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[GMT 09/09/05 11:14:08] Good morning ROC - N43 departed MacDill 1043 UTC. [GMT 09/09/05 11:14:09] terry: yes, we are [GMT 09/09/05 11:14:26] Just crossed the beach and did our first drop; tracking 044 toward center [GMT 09/09/05 11:15:18] Bob - be advised tail radar is presently down, but LF is functioning normally. Terry will address tail problem when able [GMT 09/09/05 11:16:26] brad: ok, i'm advised [GMT 09/09/05 11:16:42] gstoss (gstoss@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:17:04] Nick change: gstoss -> GregStossmeister-Ops [GMT 09/09/05 11:18:07] Bob, our plan calls for doing a figure-4 pattern, that will not be rotated (as per CARCAH's request) [GMT 09/09/05 11:18:09] 105 nm legs [GMT 09/09/05 11:18:27] we will be dropping sondes at each turn point, the flight-level RMW, and the center [GMT 09/09/05 11:18:34] StacyBrodzik-Ops (brodzik@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:18:43] also we will be dropping BT's at the RMW, coincident with the GPS drops [GMT 09/09/05 11:18:45] rob: what is the orientation and endpoint of 1st fig 4 [GMT 09/09/05 11:19:05] Bob, also be advised we are adding "RAINEX sondes" at figure-4 endpoints even before NRL arrives [GMT 09/09/05 11:19:07] IP is roughly 105 nm SW of center, tracking 045 [GMT 09/09/05 11:19:25] let me get the lat/lon of the endpoint of the outbound leg to the NE [GMT 09/09/05 11:20:13] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:20:21] 30 deg 15 min, 77 deg 41 min at the end of the NE outbound leg [GMT 09/09/05 11:20:38] though that may/will change once the center is found on this inbound leg [GMT 09/09/05 11:21:10] lf data look good! [GMT 09/09/05 11:23:00] Nick change: science3-nrlp3 -> Melicie-NRLP3 [GMT 09/09/05 11:25:20] rob: thanks for the track info [GMT 09/09/05 11:25:31] no problem Bob [GMT 09/09/05 11:26:00] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 11:26:59] LF structure definitely not too impressive [GMT 09/09/05 11:27:03] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:27:16] DeannaHence-tampa (deaah@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:27:29] Ops -tail radar is now up [GMT 09/09/05 11:27:45] no rain on SW side, upper-level stratiform deck [GMT 09/09/05 11:27:54] Nick change: DeannaHence-tampa -> Deanna-ops [GMT 09/09/05 11:28:25] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:28:46] Nick change: science3-nrlp3 -> Melicie-NRLP3 [GMT 09/09/05 11:29:40] OPS : when do you want us to drop the sondes ? On the way out or after the first IP ? and at which frequency? [GMT 09/09/05 11:29:47] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:32:00] Melicie: after the IP [GMT 09/09/05 11:32:02] Jcowan-Jeffco (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:32:24] Nick change: Jcowan-Jeffco -> Jcowan-tampa [GMT 09/09/05 11:32:39] 8 min frequency [GMT 09/09/05 11:32:59] we may increase freqency to every 5 min [GMT 09/09/05 11:33:19] Bob : OK at which frequency ? every 10 min ? [GMT 09/09/05 11:33:31] Center/partial eyewall appears out between 50-100 km on LF, with enhanced area of returns to its W/NW associated with disturbed seas [GMT 09/09/05 11:34:43] bob : ok, how many sondes do you want us to drop today ? we have 45 sondes now on board [GMT 09/09/05 11:34:52] Barkeep_ (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:34:57] Melicie: Let's change my request to every 10 min. We may increase to every 5 if things get interesting [GMT 09/09/05 11:35:55] bob: is 45 sondes OK ? or do we need more ? [GMT 09/09/05 11:36:02] Melicie: I don't have a maximum number in mind. Let's just go every 10 min unless things get really interesting [GMT 09/09/05 11:36:15] 45 is enough [GMT 09/09/05 11:36:30] Jcowan-tampa (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 11:36:34] bob: OK [GMT 09/09/05 11:36:44] Good call Bob. Storm appears to have suffered a lot in terms of structure since late yesterday [GMT 09/09/05 11:36:53] Barkeep_ (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/09/05 11:37:18] OPS : we have a delay of about 15 min [GMT 09/09/05 11:37:53] N43 is approaching eye--still pretty murky [GMT 09/09/05 11:38:07] OPS : we have a broken light bulb [GMT 09/09/05 11:38:20] Melicie: ok, take off is delayed 15 min [GMT 09/09/05 11:38:44] LF showing reasonably well-defined band from N to NE quadrant, approx. 50-100 nm from center [GMT 09/09/05 11:38:56] Jcowan-Jeffco (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:39:22] Nick change: Jcowan-Jeffco -> Jcowan-Tampa [GMT 09/09/05 11:40:27] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:41:53] searching for eye now [GMT 09/09/05 11:41:56] Terry--1 Hz data stream seems to have stopped [GMT 09/09/05 11:42:02] extrap SLP is 982, sonde will check that [GMT 09/09/05 11:43:09] rob: if that's correct slp, then it's dropping [GMT 09/09/05 11:43:24] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 11:43:28] yeah, i'm not sure I believe it [GMT 09/09/05 11:43:28] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 11:43:30] center is cloud-filled [GMT 09/09/05 11:44:01] peak flight-level winds on SW side are 60 kt [GMT 09/09/05 11:44:53] rob: there's no eyewall on MLB 88D [GMT 09/09/05 11:44:58] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:45:17] ok [GMT 09/09/05 11:45:28] didn't look impressive on LF either [GMT 09/09/05 11:45:43] agreed [GMT 09/09/05 11:46:12] this could be an interesting day if we can coordinate in a band, if the storm is getting reorganized [GMT 09/09/05 11:46:16] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:46:18] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/09/05 11:47:33] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:47:37] LF data stream has stopped, but 1 Hz is still up [GMT 09/09/05 11:47:57] terry's resetting the radars [GMT 09/09/05 11:48:16] Ok, thanks. [GMT 09/09/05 11:48:43] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:48:46] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 11:48:54] 1147: Marked center at 29deg 16min 79deg 06 min. Sonde away. [GMT 09/09/05 11:49:12] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 11:49:24] Radars down, re-booting [GMT 09/09/05 11:51:10] Radars back up [GMT 09/09/05 11:51:14] OPS: any way we can get the nexrad image with the same name (like current.gif) so I can just reload that all the time and I don't have to go back everytime and load after that ? [GMT 09/09/05 11:51:16] yes, we're getting LF here. Thanks! [GMT 09/09/05 11:51:25] Nick change: n43_RAMS -> terry-n43 [GMT 09/09/05 11:51:36] cool [GMT 09/09/05 11:51:38] new end point 30 deg 30 min N 77 deg 40 min W for this outbound leg [GMT 09/09/05 11:52:05] rob, thanks [GMT 09/09/05 11:52:06] melicie, I think we decided that we were not going to send nexrad images today unless absolutely necessary [GMT 09/09/05 11:53:31] rob: visible satellite shows most active growth in vicinity of your new end p[oint [GMT 09/09/05 11:53:34] can see nice banding features on N side of storm here [GMT 09/09/05 11:53:54] Bob: Assume you're seeing nice narrow rainband running from azimuth 330-90--think this is good NRL target? [GMT 09/09/05 11:53:55] ok the LF is showing active convective cells in the bands on the N side here [GMT 09/09/05 11:54:23] rob: we are planning to send nrl up to the NE sector, so it would be helpful to know what it's like flying there [GMT 09/09/05 11:54:45] brad: yes we see it. Also in vis satellite [GMT 09/09/05 11:54:53] We'll let you know as we cross it [GMT 09/09/05 11:54:58] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 09/09/05 11:56:49] Stacy - will any vis images relevant to our location be loaded into the "Other images" area today? Data there now are from Sept 6th... [GMT 09/09/05 11:59:48] Bob - Less azimuthally extensive but more interior ("principal"?) rainband is immediately to our north [GMT 09/09/05 11:59:52] brad, based on our phone conference yesterday, we're going to try to minimize the number of images that you need to upload from the web server [GMT 09/09/05 12:00:21] Brad, if there's a particular image you critically need, just let me know and I'll create it for you [GMT 09/09/05 12:00:26] Picking up some light-mdt chop [GMT 09/09/05 12:00:46] brad: yes. the one you are talking about is the band we have tentatively targeted for nrl [GMT 09/09/05 12:00:47] Thx stacy, nothing at this point. [GMT 09/09/05 12:01:06] Bob, do you want us to get you a lat/lon for a possible coordination IP, or will you get it from the Ops center? [GMT 09/09/05 12:01:14] Understood. Note that it is far from linear--line of broken, intense cells. They will need to be careful. [GMT 09/09/05 12:01:27] Jcowan-Tampa (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:01:53] More exterior band, approx 35 nm to the north of the preferred one, is more linear (but obviously not so interior to storm) [GMT 09/09/05 12:02:46] rob: we understood no coordination till after your last center fix [GMT 09/09/05 12:02:48] Hi Brad..this is Roger. Can you boil some more water or fly the 43 in a counterclockwise manner to add some vorticity. [GMT 09/09/05 12:03:17] I think there's going to be plenty of vorticity Roger--except that it's maximized on the convective scale ;-) [GMT 09/09/05 12:03:59] yeah that's true Bob, so that can wait for after a later fix I suppose [GMT 09/09/05 12:04:16] melicie: how many eol scientists will it take to screw in the new light bulb [GMT 09/09/05 12:04:53] bob: roger is working on it [GMT 09/09/05 12:04:53] Bob - Turbulence in interior band we just crossed wasn't extreme, but we may have been lucky [GMT 09/09/05 12:05:20] It's very broken, cellular.. whereas more northern band has far more continous mesoscale structure [GMT 09/09/05 12:05:40] brad: thanks for the descriptions [GMT 09/09/05 12:05:46] Roger is still trying to figure out what D.E.M.O. means on his parachute [GMT 09/09/05 12:05:47] this will be helpful [GMT 09/09/05 12:05:56] (Roger told that joke to me in BAMEX... it's a good one) [GMT 09/09/05 12:06:09] That's our aim, Bob. [GMT 09/09/05 12:06:42] Bob, at this point my recommendation would be to keep NRL on the far northern band. [GMT 09/09/05 12:07:03] Inner band is apparently at radius of max winds, as determined by SFMR [GMT 09/09/05 12:07:39] we're going to try to fly just outside this upcoming rainband for the downwind leg, at least for a portion of the downwind leg, to get tail coverage of it on this leg [GMT 09/09/05 12:08:52] Minimum pressure of 985 mb measured by sonde occured with winds of 21 kt.... wow [GMT 09/09/05 12:09:01] Brad: Terrific! [GMT 09/09/05 12:09:23] Greg: It's interesting to see such a low pressure with such an ill-defined eyewall structure [GMT 09/09/05 12:09:55] Brad: That's rather a surprise. [GMT 09/09/05 12:10:11] Indeed. [GMT 09/09/05 12:10:37] Brad: We are happy if your downwind leg covers some of this outer band - should give us several looks at it. [GMT 09/09/05 12:10:54] rob: that will be great to go along that band [GMT 09/09/05 12:11:04] maybe we'll catch it again with NRL [GMT 09/09/05 12:11:19] Sounds like a great plan, assuming it's steady [GMT 09/09/05 12:11:56] brad: I'm thinking we could take NRL in between the two bands. They will be starting from the SE side of the storm [GMT 09/09/05 12:12:26] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:12:58] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:14:03] rad: I'm thinking we could take NRL in between the two bands. They will be starting from the SE side of the storm [GMT 09/09/05 12:14:05] Preparing to penetrate weak spot in outer band [GMT 09/09/05 12:14:12] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:14:19] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:14:26] That coudl work Bob, but they're much too far apart to sample simultaneously [GMT 09/09/05 12:14:50] going through outer band now, in a gap in the band [GMT 09/09/05 12:14:53] As for the outermost rainband (lightning now), the outer edge is far more 2D than inner edge. [GMT 09/09/05 12:15:00] Thus I would sugggest putting NRL on outside [GMT 09/09/05 12:15:01] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/09/05 12:15:27] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:15:45] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:15:52] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:16:01] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:16:01] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:16:52] "In the clear" on outside of band, turning to track WNW [GMT 09/09/05 12:18:05] brad: the inner band is getting more active 30 nm (approx) NE of storm center [GMT 09/09/05 12:18:17] from vis satellite [GMT 09/09/05 12:18:22] The environment on outside (N) edge of this band is not so different from that ahead of a BAMEX squall, except that I've not yet identified any outflow features [GMT 09/09/05 12:18:34] More active = more cellular = harder to hold track [GMT 09/09/05 12:18:41] next turn point 30 deg 31 min N 80 deg 32 min W [GMT 09/09/05 12:19:04] brad: the shapes of the echoes along the outer band are slightly suggestive of outflow boundaries [GMT 09/09/05 12:19:11] consistent with your assessment [GMT 09/09/05 12:19:33] n43-rogers (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left &RAINEX (Leaving). [GMT 09/09/05 12:19:38] Yes, they are... our in-flight Vr displays are not as clear as those on ELDORA, so it's a bit hard to interpret--we'll keep watching [GMT 09/09/05 12:20:22] Tracking 314 with classic rearward (radially-inward) tilted celll structure and anvil overhang aloft [GMT 09/09/05 12:20:35] GREAT data [GMT 09/09/05 12:21:19] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:21:33] brad: 88D indicates new convective growth east of storm center where the eyewall should be. [GMT 09/09/05 12:21:40] I.e. inside of the inner band [GMT 09/09/05 12:21:48] Curving our track left to follow band for good dual-Doppler coverage. Now tracking 290 [GMT 09/09/05 12:22:03] Bob - It's your call. My recommendation is unchanged. [GMT 09/09/05 12:22:20] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:22:33] brad: ok [GMT 09/09/05 12:22:33] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:23:11] Nick change: science3-nrlp3 -> Melicie-NRLP3 [GMT 09/09/05 12:23:17] Putting NRL on outside of northern band will closely mimic BAMEX work. N43 can casily work the interior (S) side of this band. This later sampling will nicely complement data gained on our current track. [GMT 09/09/05 12:23:26] ShuyiChen-opc (Shuyi@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:23:40] OPS :we dropped from 1214 to 1223 anything significant during those 9 min ? [GMT 09/09/05 12:23:45] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:24:10] melicie: you didn't miss anything crucial [GMT 09/09/05 12:24:52] melicie: n43 is fllying the outside edge of an outer band and getting good doppler data. brad says it reminds him of a bamex band [GMT 09/09/05 12:25:25] RAINEXGUEST (rainex@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:25:51] brad: it will be a couple of hours before nrl gets there, and even longer before 43 returns to the band. We will continue to assess the situation [GMT 09/09/05 12:26:20] melicie: any word on take off time? [GMT 09/09/05 12:26:43] Jcowan-Jeffco (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:26:51] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/09/05 12:26:57] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:27:05] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:27:10] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:27:34] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:27:59] eyewall seems to be forming on SE side of storm on 88D [GMT 09/09/05 12:28:10] Understood Bob- meanwhile we are getting *great* data [GMT 09/09/05 12:28:23] N43-Sta2 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:28:28] melicie: any word on take off time? [GMT 09/09/05 12:28:32] OPS: we dropped again from 1225 to 1228. Anything relevant to us ? [GMT 09/09/05 12:29:30] Melicie: What's your expected take-off time? [GMT 09/09/05 12:29:48] bob :stand by. [GMT 09/09/05 12:29:48] bob : we had another minor pb which is being fixed now [GMT 09/09/05 12:30:00] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:30:17] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:30:38] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:30:56] greg: no word on that [GMT 09/09/05 12:31:18] melicie: ok, hope they get it fixed soon. The storm looks good right now. [GMT 09/09/05 12:32:05] Melicie: Thanks - let us know an expected takeoff time when you find out. [GMT 09/09/05 12:32:09] jemmett-tampa (rainex@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:32:13] E end of this band is a bit more gnarly, i.e. additional convective activity to its north close-in [GMT 09/09/05 12:32:21] greg:Ok [GMT 09/09/05 12:32:33] Nick change: N43-Sta2 -> rogers-n43 [GMT 09/09/05 12:32:40] brad: ok [GMT 09/09/05 12:32:58] Correction : *WEST* end of band has convection close-in to its north [GMT 09/09/05 12:33:22] brad: [GMT 09/09/05 12:33:36] [GMT 09/09/05 12:33:47] will be away a few mins--greg's here [GMT 09/09/05 12:35:30] Terry: 1 Hz has been down for a couple minutes [GMT 09/09/05 12:35:40] never mind, back up [GMT 09/09/05 12:36:25] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:36:36] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:37:15] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:37:23] greg: 5 min to take off [GMT 09/09/05 12:37:29] Brad and Rob: We are appreciating your flying here. [GMT 09/09/05 12:37:30] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:37:38] Melicie: Thanks! [GMT 09/09/05 12:37:41] To repeat earlier comment (lost in dropout?): Rob and I agree that the inner band is scientifcally most interesting. The question is logistics. I guess it's wait-and-see... [GMT 09/09/05 12:37:54] no problem greg [GMT 09/09/05 12:38:27] i figured by sending us along this band we could see how it looked now, if we end up flying it later today we have a sense of temporal evolution [GMT 09/09/05 12:38:48] Rob: We are thinking along same lines. [GMT 09/09/05 12:39:13] Present NHC-mandated track has taken us too far N of inner band for Doppler sampling, but continous stratiform here & some convectinon on both sides of track--less organized but still good data [GMT 09/09/05 12:39:31] Brad: Point taken - We'll look at things when NRL gets out there. [GMT 09/09/05 12:39:36] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:39:38] Jcowan-Jeffco (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 12:40:01] Cool. Glad our LF stream is steadier today--we appreciate your focuseed insights! [GMT 09/09/05 12:40:19] Nick change: n43_RAMS -> terry_n43 [GMT 09/09/05 12:40:42] I'm using Inmarsat for thr LF feed instead of G* [GMT 09/09/05 12:41:03] Since the storm.... G* has not been as robust as Inmarsat [GMT 09/09/05 12:41:46] Sounds like a good strategy, Terry [GMT 09/09/05 12:42:08] Jcowan-Jeffco (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. 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[GMT 09/09/05 12:43:30] It is sea clutter [GMT 09/09/05 12:43:37] thanks [GMT 09/09/05 12:43:40] but stratiform precip is widespread at our location [GMT 09/09/05 12:44:01] brad: that's good to know--typical [GMT 09/09/05 12:44:04] further evidence of shear, presumably [GMT 09/09/05 12:44:08] Yep [GMT 09/09/05 12:45:42] brad, rob: on your southbound leg you should see the developing eyewall onthe SE side of center [GMT 09/09/05 12:46:06] So you're saying we shoudl expect a re-location/shift of the center? [GMT 09/09/05 12:46:30] OOPS--now i'm dislexic again--make that SW of center! [GMT 09/09/05 12:46:42] OK... but as for my question ? [GMT 09/09/05 12:46:53] thanks bob we'll look for that [GMT 09/09/05 12:47:05] can you see much from 88D or is it from satellite? [GMT 09/09/05 12:47:15] standby [GMT 09/09/05 12:48:41] MikeDaniels-DIA (daniels@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:49:25] brad, rob: developing eyewall on SW side is based on 88D [GMT 09/09/05 12:49:37] Bob - we also see that tight hook-shaped feature on our LF [GMT 09/09/05 12:50:01] Near 160deg/75 nm from our position [GMT 09/09/05 12:50:19] based on echo, center would be about 29.5/79 [GMT 09/09/05 12:51:06] brad: I can't use that az/rad info very well because your moving and our images lag your position slightly [GMT 09/09/05 12:51:26] brad: vis sat also shows the developing eyewall [GMT 09/09/05 12:51:44] Sorry Bob... but we are definitely talking about same feature [GMT 09/09/05 12:51:51] standby bob i'm getting lat/lon of that [GMT 09/09/05 12:51:52] yes, i know [GMT 09/09/05 12:52:23] It's intereesting -sort of like "eyewall replacement cycle" but in reverse, i.e. the new eyewall feature is *smaller* than the original eyewall??? [GMT 09/09/05 12:52:23] 29 deg 23 min N 79 deg 24 min W [GMT 09/09/05 12:52:42] we are seeing the featur in the lf data [GMT 09/09/05 12:52:58] the lf composite is excellent today [GMT 09/09/05 12:53:06] Yes. It's very reminiscent of "off-center" circulation center we saw in Katrina on the 27th [GMT 09/09/05 12:53:13] At least superficially.... [GMT 09/09/05 12:53:17] brad: my thought exactly [GMT 09/09/05 12:53:51] We're now east of most of the stratiform precip --just a couple minuts from our turn back toward teh center [GMT 09/09/05 12:54:25] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:54:28] WEST... jeeez [GMT 09/09/05 12:55:02] brad the new eyewall feature is part of a beautiful convective burst in vis imagery [GMT 09/09/05 12:55:40] the convective burst is on the SW side? [GMT 09/09/05 12:55:51] Seems like our timing is excellent today. Any word on NRL's takeoff? [GMT 09/09/05 12:55:56] brad: Pacific Northwesterners are confused because the ocean is on the wrong side of the landout here [GMT 09/09/05 12:56:03] Turning to track 135 [GMT 09/09/05 12:56:44] LOL...I can't think of a better explanation. All I can say is that I *feel* awake.... [GMT 09/09/05 12:56:54] Brad: NRL is airborne, still near Tampa according to our displays [GMT 09/09/05 12:57:05] yeah and you were peppier than I was at 4 AM ;-) [GMT 09/09/05 12:57:08] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:57:26] Nick change: science3-nrlp3 -> Melicie-NRLP3 [GMT 09/09/05 12:57:56] ops: we dropped from 1241 to 1257 [GMT 09/09/05 12:58:04] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:58:09] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:58:12] we just took off we will reach IP in about 50 min [GMT 09/09/05 12:58:15] NRL took off at 1250Z [GMT 09/09/05 12:58:30] were is N43 now ? [GMT 09/09/05 12:58:46] GordonFarquharson-tampa (rainex@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:58:48] we have just begun our inbound leg from the NW [GMT 09/09/05 12:58:53] about 95 nm NW of center [GMT 09/09/05 12:59:02] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 12:59:07] 30 deg 23 min N 80 deg 24 min W [GMT 09/09/05 12:59:26] OPS :anything new for NRL ? [GMT 09/09/05 12:59:37] wen-chau: sitting here at DIA waiting for my flight to Minnesota. [GMT 09/09/05 13:00:04] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:00:20] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:01:28] terry_n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:01:28] Brad & Rob: there is SE-NW shear (from the anti-cyc of Nate), you'll see new,active convection in both inner core and bands down-shear left side. [GMT 09/09/05 13:01:36] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:02:09] Thanks Shuyi. Extensive stratiform on NW side is also consistent with that view (I think) [GMT 09/09/05 13:02:10] shuyi that seems consistent with what we've seen so far [GMT 09/09/05 13:02:36] at least on north side of storm there is nice banding with active convection, on downshear and downshear right side [GMT 09/09/05 13:02:51] we'll see what we see on downshear left here on this inbound leg from the LF [GMT 09/09/05 13:02:56] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:03:03] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:03:05] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:03:07] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:03:17] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:04:26] Nick change: GordonFarquharson-tampa -> GordonFarquharson-Tampa [GMT 09/09/05 13:05:21] Nick change: Jcowan-Jeffco -> Jcowan-Tampa [GMT 09/09/05 13:06:16] John Gamache's dual-Doppler analysis software is showing 30-34 m/s at 500 m on our initial NE-ward inbound pass, Sim says [GMT 09/09/05 13:08:34] shuyi: is dry air killing the east side of the storm? [GMT 09/09/05 13:08:57] what are you seeing bob to make you wonder that? [GMT 09/09/05 13:09:15] Shuyi: Water vapor imagery I saw last night suggested dryest mid-level air *north* of Ophelia... [GMT 09/09/05 13:09:19] ir imagery? [GMT 09/09/05 13:09:32] rob: the whole east side of the storm is dissipating on the 88D [GMT 09/09/05 13:09:49] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:09:53] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:09:53] ok, that's not just a range issue (i assume not)? [GMT 09/09/05 13:09:59] Bob, Brad, Rob: not so much dry air, but shear is the cause for the asymm. [GMT 09/09/05 13:10:16] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:10:17] Agreed Shuyi. [GMT 09/09/05 13:10:25] Nick change: science3-nrlp3 -> Melicie-NRLP3 [GMT 09/09/05 13:10:25] rob: It is stuff that has been in range and is weakening and disappearing. [GMT 09/09/05 13:10:30] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:10:42] yeah, that would be the upshear side of the storm, which usually has subsidence from balanced vortex responses to shear [GMT 09/09/05 13:10:44] OPS : just want to confirm the next IP : 28.5 78 and then 30.25 and 78 [GMT 09/09/05 13:11:03] upshear-right especially, i think [GMT 09/09/05 13:11:24] rob, shuyi: thanks [GMT 09/09/05 13:12:34] OPS : drops every 10 min after first IP, right ? [GMT 09/09/05 13:12:44] what does the latest CIMSS shear analysis show? [GMT 09/09/05 13:12:58] Melicie: Your points are correct. [GMT 09/09/05 13:13:34] N43 what is your position now ? [GMT 09/09/05 13:13:42] Melicie: Standby on drop locations. [GMT 09/09/05 13:14:01] Melicie: 29deg 54min 79deg 28 min, tracking 117 [GMT 09/09/05 13:14:09] greg: thxs [GMT 09/09/05 13:14:10] 29 deg 53 min N 79 deg 27 min W [GMT 09/09/05 13:15:16] Melicie: Drop every 10 minutes after reaching your IP of 28.5,78 [GMT 09/09/05 13:16:05] greg: thxs, NRL at 27.6 80.3 [GMT 09/09/05 13:16:18] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:16:34] brad, rob: that "eyewall" flare up was a flash in the pan. It's pooping out now on 88D [GMT 09/09/05 13:16:43] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:16:44] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:17:01] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:17:18] N43 is crossing inner rainband. [GMT 09/09/05 13:18:00] brad: what's it like flying thru? [GMT 09/09/05 13:18:12] Turbulence is really picking up on inside of this inner band [GMT 09/09/05 13:18:16] Nothing severe--just mdt [GMT 09/09/05 13:18:31] Make that light ocnl mdt [GMT 09/09/05 13:19:26] brad, rob: the points we gave NRL are: 28.5/78 and then norhtbound to 30.3/78 [GMT 09/09/05 13:19:27] N43's flight deck has UHF coms w/ NRL [GMT 09/09/05 13:19:56] brad: nrl is at 27.8/80 [GMT 09/09/05 13:20:52] Thanks Bob. It's a bit problematic for us to put NRL's planned track in perspective when it's outside of NRL-centered domain early -on, but we'll see that area in their plots soon [GMT 09/09/05 13:21:31] We are seeing their track however. Our satcoms have been good so far today. [GMT 09/09/05 13:21:39] just for you info. disregard if you don't need it [GMT 09/09/05 13:22:07] No, we need it. I'm just pointing out that a set of N43-centered images are still on my wish-list for RAINEX-2 ;-) [GMT 09/09/05 13:22:16] Center-finding manuevers [GMT 09/09/05 13:23:09] center is a bit clearer on this pass [GMT 09/09/05 13:23:15] not so cloud-filled [GMT 09/09/05 13:23:42] MikeDaniels-DIA (daniels@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/09/05 13:24:52] Wind structure has shown three distinct maxima on this inbound pass [GMT 09/09/05 13:25:20] We've lost-sight of "hook-like" center echo feature... not sure if it's dissipated or just not so evident at close-range on LF [GMT 09/09/05 13:25:43] melicie: you may see a new developing rainband on your port side as you track northward. If so you may want to adjust track to keep it close on your left [GMT 09/09/05 13:26:32] 1326: Marked center at 29deg 21 min 78deg 53min [GMT 09/09/05 13:26:36] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:26:53] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:27:05] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:27:08] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:27:37] port = left [GMT 09/09/05 13:29:14] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:29:23] Brad: hook-like feature dispeared on 88D as well. [GMT 09/09/05 13:29:33] Thanks Shuyi. [GMT 09/09/05 13:29:46] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:29:51] Guess that's the definition of a "convective burst" [GMT 09/09/05 13:29:52] OPS: we dropped from 1322 to 1329, anything new for us ? [GMT 09/09/05 13:29:55] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:30:52] Long-range LF shows beautiful arcing rainband from NW-NE-NE of center [GMT 09/09/05 13:31:13] N43: where are you now [GMT 09/09/05 13:31:27] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:31:29] NRL at 28.10 -78.94 [GMT 09/09/05 13:31:36] ShuyiChen-opc (Shuyi@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/09/05 13:31:38] melicie: as you track north you along 78 will see a new developing band on your starboard side (right side). Stay close to it. [GMT 09/09/05 13:32:39] bob: Ok [GMT 09/09/05 13:33:42] Melicie- Any drops? Our flight deck crew wants to know as our trakcs are converging [GMT 09/09/05 13:34:08] 43's turn point will be 28deg 06min 77deg 30min [GMT 09/09/05 13:34:23] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 09/09/05 13:34:26] Min SLP on center sonde was 984 mb [GMT 09/09/05 13:35:23] triple-peak to wind field on NW side, double-peak on SE side [GMT 09/09/05 13:35:34] Melicie: we'd like for you to keep the band on your right side and revise your points [GMT 09/09/05 13:35:54] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:36:35] Bob - Melicie is offline [GMT 09/09/05 13:37:05] Thanks Brad, we just noticed [GMT 09/09/05 13:37:14] n/p [GMT 09/09/05 13:37:23] I might be able to radio them.... [GMT 09/09/05 13:37:49] we're trying the sat phone, but we'll let you know [GMT 09/09/05 13:37:54] thanks [GMT 09/09/05 13:38:00] Trying UHF radio also [GMT 09/09/05 13:38:01] nrl new points; 28.5/78--29.6/78--30.1/78.8, adjust to keep band on your right. The band curves around the storm. [GMT 09/09/05 13:38:17] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:38:23] brad: if you get them, please give them the message I just entered. [GMT 09/09/05 13:38:34] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:38:38] Nick change: science3-nrlp3 -> Melicie-NRLP3 [GMT 09/09/05 13:38:42] Have NRL on radio [GMT 09/09/05 13:38:50] Preparing to pass msg to Wen-Chau [GMT 09/09/05 13:38:51] OPS: we are 2 min from IP1 now [GMT 09/09/05 13:38:52] melicie: nrl new points; 28.5/78--29.6/78--30.1/78.8, adjust to keep band on your right. The band curves around the storm. [GMT 09/09/05 13:39:08] thanks, brad [GMT 09/09/05 13:39:13] they may see it now. [GMT 09/09/05 13:40:13] thxs for new points [GMT 09/09/05 13:40:20] Yep- Wen-Chau says they have your msg [GMT 09/09/05 13:40:31] good karma today [GMT 09/09/05 13:40:49] So far, so good.... [GMT 09/09/05 13:41:51] OPs did 1st drop [GMT 09/09/05 13:42:24] N43 were are you ? [GMT 09/09/05 13:42:34] melicie: thanks [GMT 09/09/05 13:42:51] N43 is at 28deg 35min 78deg 03min [GMT 09/09/05 13:44:31] Tracking 135 [GMT 09/09/05 13:45:19] So we have crossed behind you [GMT 09/09/05 13:46:12] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:46:23] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:46:33] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:46:53] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:47:19] Minimal echo here on SE side... [GMT 09/09/05 13:48:03] brad: you can see from the points we gave nrl that we are keeping them on the inner side of the bands and trying to get them to the NW side of the storm where the precip is more contiguous [GMT 09/09/05 13:49:01] brad: you will probably pick up the southern tail of the same band you worked on the N side of the storm [GMT 09/09/05 13:49:07] Yes Bob--great plan [GMT 09/09/05 13:49:42] Bob: Assuming you're sending NRL northward up that band, we have already progressed SE of it. [GMT 09/09/05 13:50:50] brad: there are 3 bands on the east side of the storm. The farthest out is the one you flew by on the north side. you won't see it till well till you've gone downwind for awhile [GMT 09/09/05 13:51:56] Bob- we will be finishing up our NHC-mandated pattern on the *west* side of the storm around 1500 [GMT 09/09/05 13:52:35] then we will have some time to work with nrl [GMT 09/09/05 13:52:39] Might be easiest (FL wind-wise) for us to head E across center to join-up with NRL ca. 1515... your thoughts? [GMT 09/09/05 13:52:45] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:53:23] but they want us to have another fix b/w 17-18 UTC [GMT 09/09/05 13:53:46] Right Rob--important point. [GMT 09/09/05 13:53:57] N43 is turning to track 360 [GMT 09/09/05 13:54:37] OPS: just did drop #2 [GMT 09/09/05 13:54:37] OPS :did you just called ? [GMT 09/09/05 13:55:51] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:55:58] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:56:39] jose_boulder (meitin@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:57:50] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:58:11] melicie: new points: 30.1/78.8--29.5/79.2--29.2/78.8 [GMT 09/09/05 13:58:24] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:58:26] JimMoore-ops (JimMoore@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:58:33] These new points will keep the main echo mass to your right [GMT 09/09/05 13:58:45] Good morning Jim: Did you get your tea yet? [GMT 09/09/05 13:58:47] N43's next turn-point will be approx. 29deg 21min 77deg 29min [GMT 09/09/05 13:59:04] ShuyiChen-opc (Shuyi@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 13:59:13] BobHouze-Ops, Water is heating-- [GMT 09/09/05 13:59:15] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 13:59:29] BobHouze-Ops, How are things going?? [GMT 09/09/05 13:59:38] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 14:00:18] Ops - FD needs to call CARCAH. How problematic is interrupting LF stream at this point? (I gave them my opinion) [GMT 09/09/05 14:00:37] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 14:00:46] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 14:00:48] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 14:01:08] Ops? [GMT 09/09/05 14:01:19] Brad: We can live with a brief interruption. [GMT 09/09/05 14:01:39] OK, thx [GMT 09/09/05 14:01:52] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 14:02:02] OPS : new IP is 30.5 79.2, right ? [GMT 09/09/05 14:02:35] lf data needs to stop flowing for a min [GMT 09/09/05 14:02:48] we need the inmarsat for voice comms [GMT 09/09/05 14:02:49] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 14:03:01] i'll get it back up asap [GMT 09/09/05 14:03:11] Nick change: n43_RAMS_ -> terry-n43 [GMT 09/09/05 14:03:17] jim, you can see the flight tracks at http://rainex4/NRL/other_images/ [GMT 09/09/05 14:03:23] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 14:03:23] Call to CARCAH is complete. LF will be back shortly [GMT 09/09/05 14:03:25] if you need the actual IP address let me know [GMT 09/09/05 14:03:53] Brad: Thx [GMT 09/09/05 14:04:10] 43's data should be flowing again [GMT 09/09/05 14:04:24] rogers-n43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 14:04:55] please verify.... [GMT 09/09/05 14:05:07] melicie: new points: 30.1/78.8--29.5/79.2--29.2/78.8 [GMT 09/09/05 14:05:25] OPS : can you send the points chat [GMT 09/09/05 14:05:33] melicie: new points: 30.1/78.8--29.5/79.2--29.2/78.8 [GMT 09/09/05 14:06:04] bob :thxs [GMT 09/09/05 14:06:23] Ops - Good news. CARCAH has released us following the next penetration, at least until the nominal 18Z fix. [GMT 09/09/05 14:06:27] Barkeep_ (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 14:07:09] Bottom line: At 1425/1430 UTC, we will be available to coordinate w/ NRL until 17 UTC or so. [GMT 09/09/05 14:08:04] Jcowan-Tampa (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 14:08:09] Brad : OK [GMT 09/09/05 14:08:16] Terry: could you let us know when we should expect to see data flowing again? [GMT 09/09/05 14:08:18] In 2 min, N43 will turn to track 270 [GMT 09/09/05 14:08:22] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 14:08:31] Melicie-NRLP3, adjust to keep echo on your right [GMT 09/09/05 14:08:39] it should have started up at 14:07 [GMT 09/09/05 14:08:41] Jasmine- it should already be flowing [GMT 09/09/05 14:08:44] current position of N43 [GMT 09/09/05 14:08:48] I dont' have LF, just 1 Hz [GMT 09/09/05 14:09:03] Nick change: Barkeep_ -> jcowan-Tampa [GMT 09/09/05 14:09:07] N43 is at 29deg 15 min 77deg 28 min, preparing to track 270 [GMT 09/09/05 14:10:18] N43 turning to track 270. [GMT 09/09/05 14:10:28] Melicie-NRLP3, after reaching 29.2/78.8 reverse track with echo on left [GMT 09/09/05 14:11:04] bob: ok [GMT 09/09/05 14:11:11] Nrl at 29.9 78.4 [GMT 09/09/05 14:12:04] OPS : releasing sonde 4 now [GMT 09/09/05 14:12:34] sent packets at 14:09 and 14:11 [GMT 09/09/05 14:12:38] Ops - We need to start feeding a plan to our crew [GMT 09/09/05 14:12:41] did you get those [GMT 09/09/05 14:12:53] No, haven't received any LF since 1401 [GMT 09/09/05 14:13:58] Brad: Standby [GMT 09/09/05 14:14:01] carswell (carswell@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 14:14:19] BradSmull-n43rf, standby [GMT 09/09/05 14:14:51] Key question: From center, which way should we fly? [GMT 09/09/05 14:15:58] Brad: Working on it now - will still head you west from center probably. [GMT 09/09/05 14:16:38] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 14:16:39] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 14:16:39] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 14:17:01] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/09/05 14:17:16] Ops: It appears you have NRL on the *inside* of the band. [GMT 09/09/05 14:17:17] JimMoore-ops, I've put a gif of the proposed nrl flight plan on the website in the other-images directory [GMT 09/09/05 14:17:30] OK.. will pull it up [GMT 09/09/05 14:17:38] BradSmull-n43rf, Here are suggested points for 43: [GMT 09/09/05 14:17:52] Terry, LF is back up. Thanks! [GMT 09/09/05 14:18:05] 29.4/79.5--29.9/79.6--30.4/79.2 [GMT 09/09/05 14:18:16] Melicie-NRLP3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 14:18:36] OPS : we have been disconnected from 1414 to 1418 anything new for NRL ? [GMT 09/09/05 14:18:41] And those are relative to what? [GMT 09/09/05 14:18:54] BradSmull-n43rf, these points will take you between two bands. You will be on the outer side of band that NRL is working from inside [GMT 09/09/05 14:18:59] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 14:19:01] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 14:19:43] Undertood [GMT 09/09/05 14:19:57] Melicie-NRLP3, NOAA 43 will be working the outside of the echo of which you are working the inside [GMT 09/09/05 14:20:04] were is N43 now ? can we get the points you gave to n43 ? [GMT 09/09/05 14:20:18] glad I could get it going for y'all... [GMT 09/09/05 14:20:25] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 14:20:27] Ops - that proposed track is UPwind [GMT 09/09/05 14:20:34] Action: carswell is away: I'm here but cannot see you. [GMT 09/09/05 14:20:46] N43 is presently at 29deg 27min 78deg 10min [GMT 09/09/05 14:20:57] NOAA 43 is at 29.5/78.2 [GMT 09/09/05 14:21:04] Melicie: Our points are Our next turn-point will be approx. 29deg 21min 77deg 29min [GMT 09/09/05 14:21:11] soory [GMT 09/09/05 14:21:32] Points are 29.4/79.5--29.9/79.6--30.4/79.2 [GMT 09/09/05 14:21:42] jemmett-tampa (rainex@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/09/05 14:21:47] Melicie-NRLP3, the points we gave N43 are: 29.4/79.5--29.9/79.6--30.4/79.2 [GMT 09/09/05 14:22:41] OK NRL is at 29.18 78.82 [GMT 09/09/05 14:22:56] thxs brad [GMT 09/09/05 14:23:05] BradSmull-n43rf, you could reverse the order of points if you prefer [GMT 09/09/05 14:23:36] N43-Sta2 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 14:23:40] NRL released drop 5 [GMT 09/09/05 14:24:10] Center-finding manuevers [GMT 09/09/05 14:24:22] N43-Sta2_ (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/09/05 14:24:46] Nick change: N43-Sta2 -> rogers-n43 [GMT 09/09/05 14:25:07] rogers-n43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left &RAINEX (Leaving). [GMT 09/09/05 14:25:49] NRL- what is your present position/track? [GMT 09/09/05 14:25:58]