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[GMT 09/13/05 15:55:06] TML_home (TML_home@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/13/05 16:32:13] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 16:33:36] Anyone out there? [GMT 09/13/05 16:33:45] Yep [GMT 09/13/05 16:34:38] nick /wen [GMT 09/13/05 16:35:02] I probably used the wrong command [GMT 09/13/05 16:35:12] Try "/nick wen" [GMT 09/13/05 16:36:00] Anyway, I am uploading images manually. I will load different images in the next 30-40 min and see what happens [GMT 09/13/05 16:36:25] Nick change: science3-nrlp3 -> Wen [GMT 09/13/05 16:38:54] At the end of this test in about 40 min, I would like to get the LDM turned on to see if Iridium goes nut. So far so good. [GMT 09/13/05 16:55:35] Chris: If we end up manually upload images, how would that change the display in the cockpit? Is there a directory we need to put the images? [GMT 09/13/05 16:56:25] Mike and Janet set up the plane side of things. I'll go ask Mike. [GMT 09/13/05 16:57:50] Mike is busy right now, so I can't ask. I'm pretty sure there is just a simple directory where the images end up, and a script that creates a special link to the latest image. [GMT 09/13/05 17:00:32] Chris: Interestingly, when I tried to upload 2 images from two different IE windows, only one uploads and other one shows "This page cannot be displayed". So far, there is no dropout. [GMT 09/13/05 17:01:08] Are both images being uploaded from the same source? [GMT 09/13/05 17:01:21] Chat and image upload are not conflicting. [GMT 09/13/05 17:03:03] Different directories [GMT 09/13/05 17:03:15] I think they are conflicting somewhat. A timing test would be interesting. Do you have a (synchronized) clock running that shows seconds? [GMT 09/13/05 17:04:26] This line is being sent at exactly 17:04:45. [GMT 09/13/05 17:04:28] Do you mean on Windows? [GMT 09/13/05 17:05:04] Yes, or just access to an accurate clock somewhere on the plane. [GMT 09/13/05 17:05:13] Chris, latest image in that directory is called "current.jpg", and then they are renamed, so there's no script. [GMT 09/13/05 17:05:50] TML_home (TML_home@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 17:05:51] When I say conflicting, I mean they don't kill the phone. Certainly they are conflicting in terms of the bandwidth. [GMT 09/13/05 17:06:20] Thanks Pavel. Do you know the directory, and how the renaming is happening? [GMT 09/13/05 17:07:21] Wen: I would like to quantify what sort of round-trip time we're getting from chat while you are uploading images. [GMT 09/13/05 17:08:38] Chris, I can see hh:mm on my chat window, how to configure the time to show ss. [GMT 09/13/05 17:09:32] Actually, I don't know if the message times are being generated by the client or by the server. Instead, I'm [GMT 09/13/05 17:09:35] Chris, I found it. now I have seconds on display. [GMT 09/13/05 17:09:54] curious to know what time you get a given message based on a *separate* clock. [GMT 09/13/05 17:10:42] That should read: a separate and *accurate* clock. [GMT 09/13/05 17:12:20] test [GMT 09/13/05 17:13:28] To explain further: I'll send a message like "this message being sent at 17:15:00", and I'd like to get a message from you like: "17:15:00 message received at 17:15:20; this reply being sent back at exactly 17:16:00" [GMT 09/13/05 17:14:20] So, do you know if you have access to a synchronized clock somewhere? [GMT 09/13/05 17:15:02] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/13/05 17:15:20] Wen (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/13/05 17:16:36] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 17:17:07] Wen (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 17:17:54] Chris, Chat was down for about a min [GMT 09/13/05 17:18:49] Did Iridium disconnect, or just chat? [GMT 09/13/05 17:21:55] Wen (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/13/05 17:22:07] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/13/05 17:26:15] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 17:27:02] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 17:28:32] Looks like NRL is back. Is this the kind of disconnect you've been seeing while flying? [GMT 09/13/05 17:29:37] TML_home (TML_home@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/13/05 17:30:55] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/13/05 17:31:03] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/13/05 17:32:00] Chris: I don't recall the directory but Wen should be able to give that to you from the URL in his Explorer. If one deletes the "current.htm" from the URL, they get the directory listing. Renaming I think is done by a script but I am not sure how. [GMT 09/13/05 17:32:40] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 17:33:36] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 17:35:48] science3-nrlp3: I need to leave in a couple of minutes. Is there anything else I can do right now? [GMT 09/13/05 17:37:47] chris, the line just came up. Unless you want to do some test, I think I will try loading images. Can Stacy [GMT 09/13/05 17:38:02] turn on the LDM? [GMT 09/13/05 17:42:45] Sorry, I was out of the office. Stacy can start putting images into the LDM queue. [GMT 09/13/05 17:43:33] I have to leave now. [GMT 09/13/05 17:44:24] Action: ChrisBurghart-Boulder is away: back around 14:00 MDT (20:00 UTC) [GMT 09/13/05 17:49:28] StacyBrodzik-Ops (brodzik@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 17:53:30] Wen, there are 2 hours worth of images from 20050911 that are available in NRL/other-images; they all start with LFComposite [GMT 09/13/05 17:53:42] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 09/13/05 17:55:18] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 17:56:06] Hi, Stacy, I am back on line [GMT 09/13/05 17:56:36] Wen, there are 2 hours worth of images from 20050911 that are available in NRL/other-images; they all start with LFComposite [GMT 09/13/05 17:58:20] Try to download them continuously and let me know what happens [GMT 09/13/05 18:00:49] Are the files in a subdirectory? [GMT 09/13/05 18:01:18] science3-nrlp3, No, they're in the main "other-images" directory; maybe you need to do a refresh [GMT 09/13/05 18:03:54] ok, I am downloading them now [GMT 09/13/05 18:04:04] TML_home (TML_home@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 18:04:44] science3-nrlp3, let me know when you've received a good number of them [GMT 09/13/05 18:19:15] science3-nrlp3, how is the transfer going? How long is it taking to get a single image? [GMT 09/13/05 18:20:03] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 09/13/05 18:23:36] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 18:29:14] Stacy, I upload the last image in that directory, we had two disconnects during the last 25 min. Not hard disconnect. [GMT 09/13/05 18:31:43] science3-nrlp3, do you want me to start putting images in the ldm queue? [GMT 09/13/05 18:32:46] science3-nrlp3, also, can you tell me what the difference between disconnects and hard disconnects is? [GMT 09/13/05 18:34:00] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 09/13/05 18:43:37] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/13/05 18:45:24] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 18:45:41] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 18:46:02] science3-nrlp3, did you get my last couple questions [GMT 09/13/05 18:46:16] Stacy, we had a hard time uploading the last file, but it went through ok. [GMT 09/13/05 18:46:32] Stacy, No, chat was down for about 5 min [GMT 09/13/05 18:46:52] science3-nrlp3, do you want me to start putting images in the ldm queue? [GMT 09/13/05 18:47:01] science3-nrlp3, also, can you tell me what the difference between disconnects and hard disconnects is? [GMT 09/13/05 18:48:33] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 09/13/05 18:49:59] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 18:50:16] during uploading the last file, Iridium dropped out consistently. [GMT 09/13/05 18:50:40] Please turn on LDM and let me know when that happens. [GMT 09/13/05 18:50:55] science3-nrlp3, so this problem doesn't seem tied to either ldm or web download transmission [GMT 09/13/05 18:51:30] It is inconclusive. [GMT 09/13/05 18:53:06] science3-nrlp3, ok, the images should start going to the ldm queue again. they are created at 02 and every 10 minutes thereafter. let me know when you start getting them [GMT 09/13/05 18:53:31] Stacy, I need to get some water from my office. I will be away for about 10 min. [GMT 09/13/05 18:58:32] science3-nrlp3, i haven't taken a lunch break so i'm leaving for 30 minutes or so; if you need something, you can call Jasmine in the ops center; she'll know where to find me [GMT 09/13/05 19:18:21] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 09/13/05 19:19:33] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 19:22:32] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 09/13/05 19:23:08] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/13/05 19:28:01] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/13/05 19:29:52] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. 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[GMT 09/13/05 19:55:15] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/13/05 19:55:27] Good to hear. So the problem was just a loose connector? [GMT 09/13/05 19:59:10] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/13/05 20:12:23] i hope this is really the answer . . . [GMT 09/13/05 20:12:47] StacyBrodzik-Ops (brodzik@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/13/05 20:17:37] I hope so, too. [GMT 09/13/05 20:17:46] carswell: Jim, are you there? [GMT 09/13/05 20:19:58] Hi Chris. [GMT 09/13/05 20:21:24] Hi Jim. I'm looking at some of the radar data coming from 42, and I'm seeing what looks like duplicated beams in the data stream. [GMT 09/13/05 20:22:24] I have my display running. I'm don't see it on my real time display, but let me take a look at the data. [GMT 09/13/05 20:22:33] they are running in a sector scan mode. [GMT 09/13/05 20:25:29] pavel-jeffco (pavel@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/13/05 20:25:50] They were doing sector scanning yesterday as well, but I didn't notice the duplicated beams in the data. [GMT 09/13/05 20:25:58] I'm looking at the raw packets now on manati. [GMT 09/13/05 20:29:30] Scratch my previous comment. It looks like there was a brief period around 19:35 yesterday with the same thing happening. [GMT 09/13/05 20:30:55] I'm seeing duplicate packets. I compared my receive files the other day to the cache files. I saw duplicates in their too. I will have them capture what's going off the plane so that I can determine where the duplication is occurring. [GMT 09/13/05 20:31:46] OK, thanks. In the meantime, I think I'll try to put something on this side to ignore back-to-back duplicate beams. [GMT 09/13/05 20:52:13] ChrisBurghart-Boulder, problem should be fixed. [GMT 09/13/05 20:52:34] Wow, that was fast. Thanks! [GMT 09/13/05 20:53:21] Having xchat is a nice tool for debugging problems quickly. Found an extra process running on the server. [GMT 09/13/05 20:54:35] Aha. That would do it. I'm suprised I didn't see more duplicates, though. [GMT 09/13/05 20:55:46] We are running at almost 6kbaud. So the link actually clamps down on duplicates. [GMT 09/13/05 20:56:24] So running at the ragged edge can help sometimes.. :-) [GMT 09/13/05 20:56:50] Luck us. :) [GMT 09/13/05 20:56:58] Luck = Lucky [GMT 09/13/05 23:01:03] MarkBradford-Boulder (MarkBradfo@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/13/05 23:03:08] Action: ChrisBurghart-Boulder is away: going home [GMT 09/13/05 23:10:23] ChrisBurghart-Boulder (burghart@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/14/05 00:00:00] --- Wed Sep 14 2005