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[GMT 09/21/05 10:37:03] Nick change: gstoss -> GregStossmeister-Ops [GMT 09/21/05 10:37:14] BradSmull-AOC, yes that's what we see. I'm thinking the N side may be more SF. We'll have to see what 43 experiences [GMT 09/21/05 10:37:59] Well, that's what we're *hoping*. But range effects are range effects..... We're anxious to see the first fiew GOES Vis images which may give some indication of convective intensity on N/NW quadrants [GMT 09/21/05 10:38:06] BradSmull-AOC, no need to change IP just yet. Just be aware of the structure and that we might want to change to the northern point as the IP [GMT 09/21/05 10:38:17] BradSmull-AOC, agree re GOES [GMT 09/21/05 10:38:59] Thanks Bob--I think we're clear on the program, and we'll do our level best to stay that way! [GMT 09/21/05 10:53:50] Bob/Shuyi - We're now looking at Shuyi's MM5 output. 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[GMT 09/21/05 13:14:32] will check in the sec, but you're appearing on our screen so i'm assuming so [GMT 09/21/05 13:14:33] just a min [GMT 09/21/05 13:14:50] Nick change: BradSmull-n43 -> DaveJorgensen-N43 [GMT 09/21/05 13:15:25] N43 is now fueled - 10 AM departure looks good [GMT 09/21/05 13:15:47] yes, we are receiving 1hz data terry [GMT 09/21/05 13:16:43] StacyBrodzik-Ops (brodzik@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 13:18:08] JessicaKoury-Ops (jessicak@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 13:19:44] Dave: sounds good! I suggested to Rob that the IP be moved 12 mi west [GMT 09/21/05 13:20:44] Nick change: houze_ops -> houze_office [GMT 09/21/05 13:22:24] OK Bob - that would make the IP 24.4N 84.8W correct? [GMT 09/21/05 13:23:38] DaveJorgensen-N43, yes exactly [GMT 09/21/05 13:24:06] thanks [GMT 09/21/05 13:24:45] col! [GMT 09/21/05 13:24:49] cool [GMT 09/21/05 13:25:08] terry-n43, too late. your out of the spelling bee! [GMT 09/21/05 13:25:10] I'd still like to ferry west a bit on the way to the IP to get an LF look at the north and west sides [GMT 09/21/05 13:25:51] DaveJorgensen-N43, that's ok but we don't want to delay NRL any more than we have to [GMT 09/21/05 13:26:35] I concur [GMT 09/21/05 13:26:48] we won't take more than 15-20 min to do this [GMT 09/21/05 13:27:11] we'll probably go SW from TPA to 84.6W or so then S to IP [GMT 09/21/05 13:28:19] ShuyiChen-opc (Shuyi@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 13:30:57] DaveJorgensen-N43, the main thing we need to get from your ferry track is knowledge of where the soft spots are for NRL to get to the IP. So we will try to have them follow your track out to the IP [GMT 09/21/05 13:31:36] I concur [GMT 09/21/05 13:32:03] DaveJorgensen-N43, at what latitude will you reach 84.6W [GMT 09/21/05 13:32:20] I'll let you know what the Tail radar sees as we cross the main outer band (i.e., stratiform or convective) [GMT 09/21/05 13:32:45] I'll have to check with the Nav for the exact outbound track - I asked for a SW track from here [GMT 09/21/05 13:32:46] DaveJorgensen-N43, the tail radar info will be super helpful [GMT 09/21/05 13:33:18] DaveJorgensen-N43, ok We will need to give that point to NRL sometime before they take off [GMT 09/21/05 13:33:34] OK [GMT 09/21/05 13:34:48] The ferry track can sometimes be convoluted as ATC gets involved with vectoring the aircraft via VOR intersections [GMT 09/21/05 13:36:46] TammyWeckwerth-macdill (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 13:36:49] DaveJorgensen-N43, understood [GMT 09/21/05 13:39:15] TammyWeckwerth-macdill (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/21/05 13:39:22] TammyWeckwerth-macdill (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 13:40:40] GordonFarquharson-Boulder (gordonf@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 13:42:02] tammy_ (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 13:42:17] Bob - since we have to make a 15Z fix we may not get too far west on ferry - depends on headwinds [GMT 09/21/05 13:42:54] DaveJorgensen-N43, I thought we had no tasking responsibility today [GMT 09/21/05 13:43:20] TammyWeckwerth-macdill (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 13:45:20] Bob - AF won't get to storm till 18Z or so, so we have 15Z then no more tasking today [GMT 09/21/05 13:45:28] N43 is starting engines [GMT 09/21/05 13:45:40] DaveJorgensen-N43, OK...but we wer told no tasking [GMT 09/21/05 13:45:53] last minute change according to McFadden [GMT 09/21/05 13:46:54] TammyWeckwerth-macdill (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 13:47:04] DaveJorgensen-N43, I think it's ok if the ferry track goes directly to the IP [GMT 09/21/05 13:47:40] Bob - I did ask for some deviation to the west for LF and they will try to accommodate [GMT 09/21/05 13:48:23] tammy_ (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 13:48:32] DaveJorgensen-N43, Understood. [GMT 09/21/05 13:49:38] DaveJorgensen-N43, question: to day when we give you lat/lon points they will be identified as Pt1, Pt2, etc. [GMT 09/21/05 13:50:22] TammyWeckwerth-macdill (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 13:50:23] tammy_ (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 13:51:05] N43 has blocked out [GMT 09/21/05 13:52:14] tammy__ (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 13:52:19] DaveJorgensen-N43, we will use letters for NRL: PtA, PtB, etc [GMT 09/21/05 13:53:03] OK [GMT 09/21/05 13:53:29] tammy_ (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 13:57:36] pchang_n42 (paul_n42@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 13:57:39] DaveJorgensen-N43, we are seeing small eddies in the eye on visible. The eye is very well defined [GMT 09/21/05 13:58:12] Ops - must mean intensification! [GMT 09/21/05 13:58:38] Ops - Pete Blacks said maybe 920 mb central pressure today [GMT 09/21/05 13:59:35] N43 on take off roll [GMT 09/21/05 14:00:08] N43 off the ground [GMT 09/21/05 14:00:21] DaveJorgensen-N43, yay! [GMT 09/21/05 14:04:00] Ops - our radars are coming up now, you should see some imagery very soon [GMT 09/21/05 14:04:05] TammyWeckwerth-macdill (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 14:04:10] Dave: yes. Model also indicate concentric inner eye shrinking (intesification) and 2ndary eyewall forming sometime this afternoon. [GMT 09/21/05 14:04:33] radar data should be flowing [GMT 09/21/05 14:04:34] We are now receiving LF data in the Ops center [GMT 09/21/05 14:05:14] cool.. even spelled it right that time! [GMT 09/21/05 14:05:29] terry-n43, good job, Terry [GMT 09/21/05 14:05:35] tammy__ (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 14:06:05] DaveJorgensen-N43, you can now upload a .gif image showing your initial track relative to the storm [GMT 09/21/05 14:06:27] thanks will do [GMT 09/21/05 14:08:27] pchang_n42 (paul_n42@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 14:14:37] DaveJorgensen-N43, lf showing cells in outer convective band [GMT 09/21/05 14:15:44] Ops - yep I concur at this range (~75 nm) they are impressive (<40 dBZ) [GMT 09/21/05 14:16:32] DaveJorgensen-N43, the cells are stronger to you south beyond your range--we see them on Key West [GMT 09/21/05 14:16:35] Ops - N43 tracking 208 degrees, so we'll go through the band in 15-20 min or so [GMT 09/21/05 14:16:41] OK [GMT 09/21/05 14:16:50] seem to taper off to the west on LF [GMT 09/21/05 14:17:11] pchang_n42 (paul_n42@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 14:17:13] cells are highly broken, and should be easily avoided [GMT 09/21/05 14:17:25] on our present route [GMT 09/21/05 14:18:03] DaveJorgensen-N43, that's my impression--also band looks weaker on IR to your west [GMT 09/21/05 14:18:53] OK [GMT 09/21/05 14:20:26] Ops - the Zeb imagery gets here pretty fast, maybe a minute to upload the gif [GMT 09/21/05 14:21:51] DaveJorgensen-N43, are you referring to the sat/flight track image that Jessica made? [GMT 09/21/05 14:22:16] yes - I'm pulling imagery out of http:///NRL/nrl_images/20050921/LFComposite.200509211412.auto.png [GMT 09/21/05 14:22:36] right now its a nice ground clutter map of Florida [GMT 09/21/05 14:23:33] DaveJorgensen-N43, glad you're getting the NRL images; since they're centered on the NRL plane, they won't do you much good until NRL joins you; There [GMT 09/21/05 14:24:04] DaveJorgensen-N43, There's a sat image with proposed flight track at same website . . . /other_images [GMT 09/21/05 14:24:13] DaveJorgensen-N43, the image file name is: tracks.20050921.1401.gif [GMT 09/21/05 14:25:05] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 14:25:19] DaveJorgensen-N43, there is strong growth on the NW-W side of the eye on vis image [GMT 09/21/05 14:25:27] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 14:25:57] Ops - band 30 nm ahead is very broken convective cells - should be no problem for NRL to navigate through [GMT 09/21/05 14:26:32] BradSmull-n43rf, that agrees with Dave's assessment [GMT 09/21/05 14:26:37] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 14:26:55] DaveJorgensen-N43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 14:27:09] BradSmull-n43rf, clarify--30 nm ahead of what? [GMT 09/21/05 14:27:21] our current position [GMT 09/21/05 14:27:35] 26.54N 83.47W [GMT 09/21/05 14:27:44] BradSmull-n43rf, why are you on 43? [GMT 09/21/05 14:27:45] sorry bout that [GMT 09/21/05 14:30:14] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 14:30:29] BradSmull-n43rf, repeat--why are you on 43? 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[GMT 09/21/05 14:36:04] Nick change: BradSmull-NOAA43 -> DaveJorgenen-N43 [GMT 09/21/05 14:36:20] the nick resets every time Global Star drops out [GMT 09/21/05 14:36:31] DaveJorgenen-N43, we were so confused we called wenchau to make sure brad was on the ground! [GMT 09/21/05 14:36:47] pchang_n42 (paul_n42@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 14:37:08] found a hole in the G* coverage... both seem OK now [GMT 09/21/05 14:37:09] eye is clearly visible on LF now, 150 nm at 225 deg [GMT 09/21/05 14:38:58] was there a 10 AM EDT TRMM overpass? If so, have you seen it yet? [GMT 09/21/05 14:39:30] Rogers-n43, the eye seems most active on its NW-W side in vis [GMT 09/21/05 14:39:48] Rob, the eye is shinking and outflow is expending on IR - classical intensification stage! [GMT 09/21/05 14:40:14] Bob&Shuyi -- yes it looks like it's about 25-30 nm diameter now [GMT 09/21/05 14:40:16] shrinking [GMT 09/21/05 14:40:21] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 14:40:36] Jasmine-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 14:40:42] Possible concentric cycle starting now [GMT 09/21/05 14:40:51] Ops - TA sweeps as we went through outer band was fairly stratiform as we avoided the higher dbz cells [GMT 09/21/05 14:42:02] N43 descending from ferry altitude to 12k ft [GMT 09/21/05 14:42:07] Rogers-n43, TRMM pass is in - shows nice eyewall wrapped from E-N-W-SW. we're going to try and send you the image standby [GMT 09/21/05 14:42:35] ok thx [GMT 09/21/05 14:42:55] pchang_n42 (paul_n42@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 14:43:35] Ops - strongest inner rainband perhaps 70 nm from eye center [GMT 09/21/05 14:43:40] DaveJorgenen-N43, Rogers-n43 we are getting the trmm image ready to put in the queue in "other images" directory [GMT 09/21/05 14:43:54] great, thx Bob [GMT 09/21/05 14:44:06] DaveJorgenen-N43, Rogers-n43 it is a very complete image this time [GMT 09/21/05 14:44:25] Rogers-n43, Image time is 09Z today not 14Z. [GMT 09/21/05 14:44:34] Ops what is the URL for the TRMM imagery? [GMT 09/21/05 14:44:57] BradSmull-NRL (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 14:45:26] JimMoore-ops (JimMoore@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 14:45:35] The -real- Brad Smull has nowappeared--accept no substitutes ;) [GMT 09/21/05 14:45:38] BobHouze-Ops-- can we get an update on the storm ceter? [GMT 09/21/05 14:45:44] Greg, ok. So we've seen that one already right? [GMT 09/21/05 14:46:22] DaveJorgenen-N43, /NRL/other_images [GMT 09/21/05 14:46:33] Ops - were approaching the inner band - seems very stgratiform on LF max dbz only about 30-35 [GMT 09/21/05 14:46:37] DaveJorgenen-N43, it's not there yet [GMT 09/21/05 14:46:43] thansk [GMT 09/21/05 14:46:46] Rogers-n43, The next TRMM pass is at 1540 today so you need to wait a bit - not sure how good the geometry will be. [GMT 09/21/05 14:47:32] DaveJorgenen-N43, the trmm image is for 0940--so it's not extremely current [GMT 09/21/05 14:48:02] yes, we saw this image before we departed [GMT 09/21/05 14:48:43] ok thx greg [GMT 09/21/05 14:48:59] how about ssm/i? anything more current there? [GMT 09/21/05 14:49:08] Rogers-n43, I'll keep an eye out for the next one. [GMT 09/21/05 14:49:12] there are two inner rainbands NE of the eye - we're entering the outer one near 25.14N 84.28W [GMT 09/21/05 14:49:15] Rob&Dave, the 0940Z TMI you saw showed the concentric inner eyewall and also indicate the 2ndary "eyewall" ring were to form. [GMT 09/21/05 14:49:30] I concur Shuyi [GMT 09/21/05 14:49:45] Ops--did you see my question about current storm center location? [GMT 09/21/05 14:50:19] Ops - the innermost "inner" band is perhaps 10 nm inside of the band we're passing through [GMT 09/21/05 14:50:20] Rogers-n43, Latest SSM/I at 1247Z - Did you see that one also? [GMT 09/21/05 14:50:24] Jasmine-nrlp3, my estimate is 24.2/85.7 [GMT 09/21/05 14:50:52] Ops - this inner band is about as stratiform as they get - so smooth that we're having a hard time keeping awake [GMT 09/21/05 14:51:04] BobHouze-Ops-- thanks, I'll pass that along to our nav [GMT 09/21/05 14:51:08] bright band to 40 dBZ however [GMT 09/21/05 14:51:13] model forecast that the 2ndary eyewall should gradually establish during the day. Let me know if you see that on LF. [GMT 09/21/05 14:51:27] shuyi -- ok we will [GMT 09/21/05 14:51:34] Jasmine-nrlp3, that estimate is based on the lf image [GMT 09/21/05 14:51:54] Ops we see pieces of outer eyewall/inner band but highly stratiform [GMT 09/21/05 14:52:08] DaveJorgenen-N43, is there any coffee to keep you awake in all that SF? [GMT 09/21/05 14:52:28] Action: ChrisBurghart-Boulder is back (gone 16:32:09) [GMT 09/21/05 14:52:48] Rogers-n43, SSM/I at 1247 shows eyewall even more completely wrapped around Strong Rainband around to SE about 80-90 nm. [GMT 09/21/05 14:52:57] I have Mike Black to keep me awake [GMT 09/21/05 14:53:07] Good! [GMT 09/21/05 14:53:07] Greg -- ok great. Can you put that on the web too please? [GMT 09/21/05 14:53:07] DaveJorgenen-N43, even better [GMT 09/21/05 14:53:10] Ops no secondary tangential wind max in this band so I don't think its an "outer eyewall" [GMT 09/21/05 14:53:19] BobHouze-Ops-- ok, thanks [GMT 09/21/05 14:54:09] Rogers-n43, Standby we're sending you the SSM/I image. [GMT 09/21/05 14:54:10] I'll just turn off the radar's... that'll wake Dave up! [GMT 09/21/05 14:54:18] ok thx greg [GMT 09/21/05 14:54:23] we're through the band now - LF presentation doesn't show it to be concentric about eye so its not a double eye structure yet [GMT 09/21/05 14:54:38] DaveJorgenen-N43,you're probably a bit far out to see a 2nd wind max [GMT 09/21/05 14:55:13] Ops - we're entering the innermost of the two bands now 24.79N 84.45W [GMT 09/21/05 14:55:38] GregStossmeister-Ops-- can you tell me what the file name is on the SSM/I image? [GMT 09/21/05 14:56:11] Ops - some small embedded cells on TA but still highly stratiform [GMT 09/21/05 14:56:12] Jasmine-nrlp3, It's the only one that starts with ssmi [GMT 09/21/05 14:56:55] GaryGranger-Boulder-- ok. must not have been there when I refreshed [GMT 09/21/05 14:57:04] ops -- can you send a url for the ssmi image please? [GMT 09/21/05 14:57:29] DaveJorgenen-N43, I think the 2nd eyewall will be a little closer to the eyewall, just inside your IP perhaps [GMT 09/21/05 14:57:46] Rogers-n43, /NRL/other_images/ssmi..... [GMT 09/21/05 14:58:43] pchang_n42 (paul_n42@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 14:58:48] Jasmine-nrlp3, Are you guys close to takeoff? [GMT 09/21/05 14:58:59] Dave&Rob: we've been trying to anwser the question of "is the rainband lead the 2ndary wind max or vis versa"? Hope we'll find something to shed some light on that today. [GMT 09/21/05 14:59:34] bit more bumpy in this band [GMT 09/21/05 14:59:35] NRL has taken off [GMT 09/21/05 15:00:07] DaveJorgenen-N43, how bumpy in m/s? [GMT 09/21/05 15:00:31] 70 knot winds at 700 mb about 65 nm from the eye center [GMT 09/21/05 15:00:56] TA is showing low-level outflow from the storm on inner edge of this band and low-level inflow to the storm on outer edge of band [GMT 09/21/05 15:01:09] GregStossmeister-Ops-- just to repeat, we took of at 1500 UTC [GMT 09/21/05 15:01:24] Jasmine-nrlp3, Thx Jasmine. [GMT 09/21/05 15:01:43] winds are dropping off as we exit the band on the way to the eye [GMT 09/21/05 15:01:43] Rogers-n43, thanks for that observation [GMT 09/21/05 15:01:54] now down to 60 knots [GMT 09/21/05 15:01:55] datanet G* just went down [GMT 09/21/05 15:02:04] definately a secondary wind max [GMT 09/21/05 15:02:17] cool, dave! [GMT 09/21/05 15:02:19] should be back now... please verify [GMT 09/21/05 15:02:32] terry-n43, yes, both data streams are good [GMT 09/21/05 15:03:08] two more weak bands on LF between us and the eyewall on about 10 nm out from the eyewall another 25 nm from the eyewall [GMT 09/21/05 15:03:15] cool! Thanks Jessica [GMT 09/21/05 15:03:54] DaveJorgenen-N43, Dave - understand we are looking at them. [GMT 09/21/05 15:04:17] at IP turning toward eye center for penetration [GMT 09/21/05 15:04:21] Rogers-n43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 15:04:23] DaveJorgenen-N43, how strong were the updrafts when it was bumpy (in m/s) [GMT 09/21/05 15:04:49] Ops - perhaps the best band to work on the E side is the one we went through [GMT 09/21/05 15:04:56] pavel-jeffco (pavel@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:05:07] was a fairly broad updraft perhaps 5 m/s updraft [GMT 09/21/05 15:05:38] DaveJorgenen-N43, that is a possibility, but we are thinking the next one migh also be agood candidate--see what it looks like in next few mins [GMT 09/21/05 15:06:07] DaveJorgenen-N43, this next one looks more circular than spiral [GMT 09/21/05 15:06:21] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:06:53] DaveJorgensen-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:07:32] Nick change: n43_RAMS_ -> terry_n43 [GMT 09/21/05 15:08:04] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 15:08:17] that strong band located about 80 nm E of the eye 24.79N 84.45W [GMT 09/21/05 15:08:17] DaveJorgenen-N43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 15:08:42] TammyWeckwerth-macdill (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 15:09:15] that strong band located about 80 nm E of the eye 24.79N 84.45W [GMT 09/21/05 15:09:45] DaveJorgensen-n43rf, How about the one you just went through - anything noteworthy? [GMT 09/21/05 15:10:21] Ops - band highly stratiform - hard to see on TA with all this embedded stratiform [GMT 09/21/05 15:10:29] Rogers-n43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:10:44] DaveJorgensen-n43rf, thanks--we're noting these positions [GMT 09/21/05 15:11:13] just an enhanced brightband to mark its location [GMT 09/21/05 15:11:23] sfc wind now 70 knots just penetrating the eyewall [GMT 09/21/05 15:11:48] flight level winds 86 knots [GMT 09/21/05 15:12:37] flight level winds now 95 knots [GMT 09/21/05 15:12:48] starting to get bumpy [GMT 09/21/05 15:14:26] now in eyewall flight level winds 125 knts [GMT 09/21/05 15:15:35] flight level winds 140 knots [GMT 09/21/05 15:15:36] estimate sfc at 110 kts? [GMT 09/21/05 15:15:58] OK, estimate sfc at 125 kts? [GMT 09/21/05 15:16:15] SFMR reads 130 knots [GMT 09/21/05 15:16:38] winds dropping off and the sky getting brighter - must be the eye! [GMT 09/21/05 15:17:22] low level clouds in eye center pretty impressive! [GMT 09/21/05 15:17:22] drop a sonde in the ctr? [GMT 09/21/05 15:17:27] good stadium effet [GMT 09/21/05 15:17:29] can see the sea sfc [GMT 09/21/05 15:17:37] yep sonde about to go out [GMT 09/21/05 15:17:50] please do! [GMT 09/21/05 15:18:35] winds now 2 knots sfc pressure 925 mb eye fix at 24.18N 85.72W [GMT 09/21/05 15:18:37] get pictures! :) [GMT 09/21/05 15:18:56] sonde out orbiting in the eye [GMT 09/21/05 15:19:20] getting a BT sonde ready to drop [GMT 09/21/05 15:19:32] Rogers-n43, getting photos? [GMT 09/21/05 15:19:44] TammyWeckwerth-macdill (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:19:51] several folks here getting pictures, including john and pete [GMT 09/21/05 15:19:53] StacyBrodzik-Ops-- images have been coming in just fine, thought you'd like to know. [GMT 09/21/05 15:19:59] hope John and Pete getting pics! [GMT 09/21/05 15:20:54] pics being taken, although not by me, my window position sucks [GMT 09/21/05 15:21:00] looks over the prop [GMT 09/21/05 15:21:08] now tracking outbound from eye center [GMT 09/21/05 15:21:17] I know that window well, [GMT 09/21/05 15:21:29] yep [GMT 09/21/05 15:21:55] DaveJorgensen-n43rf, lf getting great radar view of eyewall [GMT 09/21/05 15:21:56] too much trouble to get the seat belt off to go forward for pics - Mike is getting them [GMT 09/21/05 15:22:03] yep [GMT 09/21/05 15:22:10] about to penetrate! [GMT 09/21/05 15:22:20] Jasmine-nrlp3, thanks for that info Jas [GMT 09/21/05 15:22:22] eyewall looks pentagonal [GMT 09/21/05 15:23:08] eyewall really sloped to the N and vertical to the S [GMT 09/21/05 15:23:21] NRL is planning W-bound track along approx 24degN [GMT 09/21/05 15:23:22] sea state is pretty impressive right now too [GMT 09/21/05 15:23:36] sea state very impressive, sheets being sheared off waves [GMT 09/21/05 15:23:40] blue-green color [GMT 09/21/05 15:24:15] may slope on S 20 deg on N 50 deg [GMT 09/21/05 15:24:26] maybe the eyewall slope that is [GMT 09/21/05 15:25:49] NRL has entered stratiform shield [GMT 09/21/05 15:25:57] max winds on W side only about 120 knots [GMT 09/21/05 15:26:02] BradSmull-NRL, Another band is showing up at about 24.5, 83.0 oriented N-S probably wrapping NNW - you may run into it on that track [GMT 09/21/05 15:26:50] out of eyewall now only weak bands to our W [GMT 09/21/05 15:27:03] BradSmull-NRL, Better track for you would be to head west first then south - things are more stratiform on the north end of the outer band. [GMT 09/21/05 15:27:29] Understood, Greg--from what DaveJ has reported none of these bands are particularly severe turbulence-wise...right? [GMT 09/21/05 15:27:51] that is correct Brad [GMT 09/21/05 15:28:09] That's correct you should follow their track in. [GMT 09/21/05 15:28:30] even the eyewall wasn't that bumpy compared to some MCSs we've flown [GMT 09/21/05 15:28:59] Thx Greg--that info is coming a bit late, but we will turn that direction (which is now somewhat north of west) [GMT 09/21/05 15:29:06] DaveJorgensen-n43rf, can you please respond to BradSmull-NRL? [GMT 09/21/05 15:29:07] BradSmull-NRL, I meant you should follow 43's track to the IP. [GMT 09/21/05 15:29:46] Greg--we don't really have "their track", so a general latitude is good. I think we're clear. Now turning to track 310 [GMT 09/21/05 15:29:49] bands on W side very weak - lots of enhanced stratiform looking reflectivity to the N of the eye [GMT 09/21/05 15:30:45] BradSmull-NRL, 43's track is just to your west about 10 nm heading 225 degrees approx. [GMT 09/21/05 15:31:14] MarkBradford-Boulder (MarkBradfo@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:31:17] Dave: it's typical for the downwind side of the bands to be more stratiform on the W, is that right? [GMT 09/21/05 15:31:23] Our eyewall drop on E side showed 160 knots max winds 500 feet about surface [GMT 09/21/05 15:31:32] that is correct Shuyi [GMT 09/21/05 15:31:36] Thx Greg [GMT 09/21/05 15:31:36] Wow! [GMT 09/21/05 15:31:44] conventional wisdom speaking [GMT 09/21/05 15:31:51] pchang_n42 (paul_n42@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:32:26] very smooth ride here on the W side at 10k ft [GMT 09/21/05 15:32:45] reading on the sfc wind from the sonde when it hits the water? [GMT 09/21/05 15:32:48] I long for the days of 1500 ft altitude penetrations! [GMT 09/21/05 15:33:16] BradSmull-NRL, Brad we would suggest you move your IP toward the west approximately 10 nm to keep up with the storm. [GMT 09/21/05 15:33:38] ericloew-ncar (ericloew@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:34:09] we dropped 2 in the eyewall Shuyi, the first had the 160 knots wind max 500 ft above the sfc, 105 knots at splash Mike is still processing the 2nd eyewall drop [GMT 09/21/05 15:34:44] GregStossmeister-Ops, appears we have to get W to 85 or even 86 W to drop south and avoid intense precip [GMT 09/21/05 15:35:23] Rogers-n43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 15:35:54] at W end of outbound leg, turning to track downwind [GMT 09/21/05 15:36:14] DaveJorgensen-n43rf, coldest tops are in SW quadrant [GMT 09/21/05 15:36:31] BradSmull-NRL, You should be free of it by around 85 - don't track too far west or you'll be out of position. [GMT 09/21/05 15:36:40] Shuyi - the SFMR read 135 knots during that eyewall pass [GMT 09/21/05 15:37:59] tammy_ (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:38:04] so perhaps that drop actually fell into the eye and not at the RMW [GMT 09/21/05 15:38:05] BradSmull-NRL, 86 is too far. [GMT 09/21/05 15:38:43] BobHouze-Ops, Bob--We are basing that on 1532 LF image from Zebra [GMT 09/21/05 15:38:56] thx, dave. I guess the sfc wind max from the sonde might be close to 140 kts. [GMT 09/21/05 15:39:07] Ops - broken convective band extending from about 50 nm on W side of eye to about 25 nm on S side of eye [GMT 09/21/05 15:39:17] BobHouze-Ops, we'll try 85 [GMT 09/21/05 15:39:40] BradSmull-NRL, i think 85 will work, but our lf for that region is a little old [GMT 09/21/05 15:40:00] terry_n43, we have lost the LF data stream in the Ops center. [GMT 09/21/05 15:40:20] TammyWeckwerth-macdill (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 15:40:23] Yes Bob, we're aware of that. Already have FL wind of 25 m/s [GMT 09/21/05 15:40:33] we're looking into that Jessica [GMT 09/21/05 15:40:48] BradSmull-NRL, we see those cells in vis imagery which is current [GMT 09/21/05 15:41:05] BradSmull-NRL, strongest cells end about 85 on vis [GMT 09/21/05 15:41:07] Thanks Dave [GMT 09/21/05 15:41:50] JessicaKoury-Ops, i kicked it... is it showing up now? [GMT 09/21/05 15:42:21] Thx Bob--we're currently at 84.2 and we think we see W end of itense precip on nose. [GMT 09/21/05 15:42:55] terry_n43: I see new LF data at the ops center. [GMT 09/21/05 15:43:04] Ops - we'll get a good LF look on our northbound run through the eye - I'll attempt to mark the candidate band for our link up with NRL on our upwind run [GMT 09/21/05 15:43:06] TammyWeckwerth-macdill (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:43:12] thanks Chris [GMT 09/21/05 15:43:23] terry_n43, Yes, we're getting it too. Thanks! [GMT 09/21/05 15:43:38] By the way Bob, we're collecting good data on outer band to our S on this downwind transit [GMT 09/21/05 15:43:39] Rogers-n43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:43:43] DaveJorgensen-n43rf, we are thinking we should have nrl meet you at your north point. they are taking too long to get to east side ip [GMT 09/21/05 15:44:01] cool!! Don't want to leave Jasmine & Brad in the dark :-) [GMT 09/21/05 15:44:04] BradSmull-NRL, glad your gettting the obs. It's an important feature of the storm [GMT 09/21/05 15:44:28] tammy_ (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 15:44:33] yep I see that on the 1542 zeb image [GMT 09/21/05 15:44:39] tammy_ (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:45:06] What is N43's ETA for end of their Fig-4? [GMT 09/21/05 15:45:31] stand by I'll find out [GMT 09/21/05 15:45:32] standby brad cheking now [GMT 09/21/05 15:45:49] Thx Dave [GMT 09/21/05 15:46:25] TammyWeckwerth-macdill (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 15:46:41] BradSmull-NRL, i think meeting on N side at end of fig 4 should work to join up with 43 [GMT 09/21/05 15:46:59] Bob -- where is NRL now? [GMT 09/21/05 15:47:27] eta to north side 1615 UTC [GMT 09/21/05 15:47:36] Rogers-n43, Standby -we'll get you a pt. [GMT 09/21/05 15:47:53] Rogers-n43, 27.0,84.6 is their current location. [GMT 09/21/05 15:47:58] pchang_n42 (paul_n42@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 15:48:00] turning northbound [GMT 09/21/05 15:48:04] Rob--we're nearing our left turn to head south and begin an upwind track [GMT 09/21/05 15:48:17] ok thx greg -- also give it to me in storm-relative coordinates (e.g. 100 nm East of center, etc.) [GMT 09/21/05 15:48:57] BobHouze-Ops-- let us know what you want us to do, if it's better to meet at their N point of fig-4 or near the original IP [GMT 09/21/05 15:49:16] Rogers-n43, maybe 180 nm at 015 azimuth? [GMT 09/21/05 15:49:17] Jasmine-nrlp3, meet at N point [GMT 09/21/05 15:49:34] ok thx greg [GMT 09/21/05 15:49:44] thx jasmine too [GMT 09/21/05 15:50:10] BobHouze-Ops-- where will that be approx? And what time? [GMT 09/21/05 15:50:20] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:50:22] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:50:49] ShuyiChen-opc-- do you want drops now or should we wait for our IP [GMT 09/21/05 15:51:38] terry_n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 15:51:57] DaveJorgensen-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 15:52:01] Wait until get the IP. [GMT 09/21/05 15:52:10] Rob, what is your north point (lat, lon) [GMT 09/21/05 15:52:21] standby brad [GMT 09/21/05 15:52:43] Jasmine-nrlp3, PointA for you will be a meeting place to catch up with 43. Pt A is 25.5 85.7 roughly 90nm NNW of center approx. [GMT 09/21/05 15:52:59] tammy__ (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:53:04] end point of figure-4 23deg 21min N 85deg 42min W [GMT 09/21/05 15:53:05] ShuyiChen-opc-- ok, will do [GMT 09/21/05 15:53:20] BradSmull-NOAA43, we are giving you a suggested meeting point that is north of the norht point of the fig4 [GMT 09/21/05 15:53:22] NRL at 85.2, still proceeding W to find suitable gap in band to turn south thru [GMT 09/21/05 15:53:35] thx brad [GMT 09/21/05 15:53:39] Brad we'll be at N pt at about 15 min after the hour [GMT 09/21/05 15:53:44] NRL now turning [GMT 09/21/05 15:54:29] Rogers-n43, Rob & Dave we are giving a meeting point north of your northern end point [GMT 09/21/05 15:54:38] BradSmull-n43, Dave please change your nick so we don't get you confused. thx. [GMT 09/21/05 15:54:44] ok Bob [GMT 09/21/05 15:54:49] That point is approx 90 nm NNW of eye [GMT 09/21/05 15:54:59] great thx [GMT 09/21/05 15:55:04] Ops - that band we're thinking of working extends SE to about 135 deg 75 nm from the eye center [GMT 09/21/05 15:55:06] GregStossmeister-Ops-- ok, we got the point [GMT 09/21/05 15:55:23] Rogers-n43, the point 90 nm nnw of eye is their point A which is 25.5/85.7 [GMT 09/21/05 15:55:25] tammy_ (tammy@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 15:55:27] DaveJ--feel free to edit X-chat aqua preferences to replace my name(s) with yours, will help during auto re-connects [GMT 09/21/05 15:55:31] OK sorry everytime it reboots it resorts to your name [GMT 09/21/05 15:55:49] ok bob thx [GMT 09/21/05 15:55:51] Nick change: BradSmull-NOAA43 -> DaveJorgensen-N43 [GMT 09/21/05 15:56:10] MarkBradford-Boulder (MarkBradfo@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/21/05 15:56:54] Pt A looks good to NRL --our ETA there is at 1615, if we can avoid major deviations [GMT 09/21/05 15:57:41] What is the plane for NRL after we get to the IP? [GMT 09/21/05 15:57:44] marks-hrd (marks@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 15:58:17] DaveJorgensen-N43, Rogers-n43 , BradSmull-NRL we suggest working first in NE quadrant at a radius of 70-90 nm from eye [GMT 09/21/05 15:58:18] now penetrating the eyewall [GMT 09/21/05 15:58:28] DaveJ--that is why I suggested you edit preferences to replace my "stored" name(s) with yours [GMT 09/21/05 15:58:32] max winds only about 75 knots [GMT 09/21/05 16:00:05] Rogers-n43, DaveJorgensen-N43 , BradSmull-NRL we suggest working first in NE quadrant at a radius of 70-90 nm from eye [GMT 09/21/05 16:00:21] ok thx Bob [GMT 09/21/05 16:00:25] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 09/21/05 16:00:30] do you have a proposed IP (lat/lon) for N43? [GMT 09/21/05 16:01:04] So Bob, when you say "NE Quadrant" do you mean we track SE from our IP? [GMT 09/21/05 16:01:55] BradSmull-NRL, Yes - you would work upwind on the outside of the band. We are thinking approx. 60nm legs then reverse track. [GMT 09/21/05 16:02:56] OK Greg--which aircraft is inside, which outside? [GMT 09/21/05 16:03:24] DaveJorgensen-N43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 16:03:30] Rogers-n43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 16:03:31] Presumably NRL will stay *inside* now that we're here...\ [GMT 09/21/05 16:03:32] Rob can you go to channel #HRD [GMT 09/21/05 16:03:33] BradSmull-NRL, Our current thinking is N43 inside, NRL outside. [GMT 09/21/05 16:03:41] Wen-Chau just corrected me--we will be on on *outside* of band whose northern edge is near 25.5 [GMT 09/21/05 16:04:20] BradSmull-NRL, You are currently "outside" of where we want you to work just to keep language straight. [GMT 09/21/05 16:04:20] Thx Greg--understood [GMT 09/21/05 16:04:22] Rogers-n43, YOur point 1 would be 25.2/85.7. That will put you just south of NRL's point A [GMT 09/21/05 16:06:00] NRL is clear on the plan. Preparing to begin drops as we begin our upwind leg [GMT 09/21/05 16:06:25] BradSmull-NRL, Reiterating points: NRL point A is 25.5/85.7, N43 point 1 is 25.2/85.7 [GMT 09/21/05 16:06:25] Jcowan-Jeffco (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 16:06:33] ShuyiChen-opc-- since we're upwind, what is our drop interval? still 12 like last time? [GMT 09/21/05 16:06:33] 12 min [GMT 09/21/05 16:06:50] BobHouze-Ops-- ok, we've got the points [GMT 09/21/05 16:07:14] Jasmine-nrlp3, We will resend them when 43 gets back on chat [GMT 09/21/05 16:07:55] Ok, our nav is relaying the points to 43 [GMT 09/21/05 16:08:10] Jasmine-nrlp3, thnks [GMT 09/21/05 16:08:56] Jasmine: first sonde at the IP, then one sonde at the end of the upwind track. [GMT 09/21/05 16:09:28] So two drops will be separated by 60nm [GMT 09/21/05 16:09:45] ShuyiChen-opc-- ok, got it [GMT 09/21/05 16:10:13] After that, you will be on a reverse track downwind. Then we get to our regular 10 min a sonde on the downwind track. [GMT 09/21/05 16:10:33] NRL is 3 min away from our upwind turn. Current position 25.9 85.6 [GMT 09/21/05 16:10:35] ShuyiChen-opc-- ok, i'll let them know [GMT 09/21/05 16:11:25] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 16:12:14] Nick change: n43_RAMS -> terry-n43 [GMT 09/21/05 16:12:26] Nick change: terry-n43 -> terry_n43 [GMT 09/21/05 16:12:51] g* issues up here [GMT 09/21/05 16:13:04] got the usernet back up... working on the datanet [GMT 09/21/05 16:13:09] BobHouze-Ops-- we're in the pattern now. Sonde is away [GMT 09/21/05 16:13:43] terry_n43, thanks for getting it back up, we have both streams now. [GMT 09/21/05 16:13:45] Jasmine-nrlp3, are the 2 planes in coordination? [GMT 09/21/05 16:13:52] ok... datanet G* should be up.. lf data there? [GMT 09/21/05 16:14:00] awesome! [GMT 09/21/05 16:14:13] Jasmine: correction - every 7 min a sonde on the downwind track. Sorry. [GMT 09/21/05 16:14:21] pchang_n42 (paul_n42@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 16:14:36] ShuyiChen-opc-- ok [GMT 09/21/05 16:14:38] N43-Sta2 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 16:14:51] Nick change: N43-Sta2 -> Rogers-n43 [GMT 09/21/05 16:15:12] BobHouze-Ops-- 43 is about 5 minutes behind us. Since they're inside, they will catch up with us on our track [GMT 09/21/05 16:15:14] Rogers-n43, NRL has turned downwind. are you in coordination [GMT 09/21/05 16:15:24] Jasmine-nrlp3, THX [GMT 09/21/05 16:15:34] terry_n43: I see LF in the ops center again [GMT 09/21/05 16:15:36] standby bob our G* was down [GMT 09/21/05 16:15:40] BobHouze-Ops-- yes, we're coordinating with 43 [GMT 09/21/05 16:15:46] ericu_hrd (eric@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 16:15:59] Jasmine-nrlp3, ok [GMT 09/21/05 16:16:39] bob they just told us they're headed 125 azimuth (i.e. upwind) [GMT 09/21/05 16:17:12] we've just begun our turn upwind to track 050 for now [GMT 09/21/05 16:17:15] BobHouze-Ops-- that's our heading as well [GMT 09/21/05 16:17:40] BobHouze-Ops-- NRL increasing to 14 kft because 43 is coming up to 12 kft [GMT 09/21/05 16:18:32] pchang_n42 (paul_n42@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 16:18:37] BobHouze-Ops-- how is our track looking to Ops? [GMT 09/21/05 16:18:50] pchang_n42 (paul_n42@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 16:18:51] Ops -- what is the point for the beginning of the downwind leg? [GMT 09/21/05 16:19:31] We are on coordinated upwind track, but see no firm evidence of a "band" between us & 43 in this sector [GMT 09/21/05 16:19:37] Rogers-n43, we gave you 60 nm legs and reverse track. coordinate with nrl. [GMT 09/21/05 16:20:29] Rogers-n43, we could give you a point if you need it [GMT 09/21/05 16:21:34] terry_n43, we seem to have lost the 1Hz stream (but we are still receiving LF data) [GMT 09/21/05 16:21:43] BobHouze-Ops--it wouldn't hurt to pass along an endpoint to us as well [GMT 09/21/05 16:22:05] Rogers-n43, a suggested point B is 24.8/84.8 [GMT 09/21/05 16:22:20] Bob, is that point B for NRL or 43? [GMT 09/21/05 16:22:20] Rogers-n43, disregard [GMT 09/21/05 16:22:27] Rogers-n43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 16:22:33] terry_n43, 1Hz is back up, thank you! [GMT 09/21/05 16:22:42] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 09/21/05 16:22:42] terry_n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 09/21/05 16:23:37]