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[GMT 08/28/05 15:13:00] Terry: yes, I just noticed the 1hz data coming in [GMT 08/28/05 15:15:04] StacyBrodzik-Ops (brodzik@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 08/28/05 15:20:10] StacyBrodzik-Ops (brodzik@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 15:40:04] Jasmine-ops (jasmine@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 15:45:06] StacyBrodzik-Ops, are you seeing radar data from 43? [GMT 08/28/05 15:48:24] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 15:49:25] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:03:24] StacyBrodzik-Ops, are you seeing radar data from 43? [GMT 08/28/05 16:05:42] hey terry, i'll check for ya [GMT 08/28/05 16:06:06] yes, we have data! [GMT 08/28/05 16:06:46] although we haven't gotten anything since 1604 [GMT 08/28/05 16:07:40] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 16:10:29] houze (houze@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:11:31] testing [GMT 08/28/05 16:11:34] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:13:24] hey terry, 1 Hz data had stopped for about 5 minutes but is back [GMT 08/28/05 16:14:35] ...and LF data has stopped [GMT 08/28/05 16:17:41] thnx, i stoped the radar system for engine start & takeoff [GMT 08/28/05 16:17:52] ok, good to know [GMT 08/28/05 16:22:05] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:22:24] N43RF is airborne at 1621 [GMT 08/28/05 16:28:16] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 16:29:10] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 16:32:53] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:33:11] BobHouze-Ops (houze@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:36:40] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:36:47] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 16:38:09] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:38:26] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:38:53] Bob - Could you please relay msg to Wen-Chau for me? Quick cell call would work fine. Tell him no known restrictions on Iridium transmit on tarmac at MacDill [GMT 08/28/05 16:39:43] will do [GMT 08/28/05 16:39:48] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 16:41:21] MichaelBell-ops (mbell@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:41:31] Nick change: MichaelBell-ops -> MichaelBell-macdill [GMT 08/28/05 16:42:04] Terry--we got a good couple of minutes of LF, but has stopped at 1837 [GMT 08/28/05 16:42:56] gstoss (gstoss@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:43:14] JimMoore-ops (JimMoore@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:43:27] Nick change: gstoss -> GregStossmeister-ops [GMT 08/28/05 16:44:17] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:44:54] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:45:19] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 16:45:21] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 16:48:45] mblack-hrd (mblack@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:48:46] Stacy - Do I have login on rainex machine where I could try scp of lf/track composites? [GMT 08/28/05 16:49:54] I'm thinking in terms of the 'scp' approach you suggested [GMT 08/28/05 16:50:07] Brad: You need to ssh in to rainex3 as user can you access your email? It has all the instructions [GMT 08/28/05 16:50:23] Rob: Don't know if you have heard- N43 is doing a landfall flight- 3AM takeoff, P. Dodge and I scrambling ot get up there. We also have Chris and Stan available. More later this afternoon [GMT 08/28/05 16:50:34] I don't believe instructions addressed my login... ? [GMT 08/28/05 16:52:25] Understood, thx [GMT 08/28/05 16:53:11] data should be flowing from 43 [GMT 08/28/05 16:53:26] yes, both are coming in terry, lookin' good! [GMT 08/28/05 16:53:31] thnx [GMT 08/28/05 16:53:53] Brad: I've set up a login for you on rainex3 (username=smull, password=2%milk) please change the password asap [GMT 08/28/05 16:54:32] ShuyiChen-opc (Shuyi@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:54:34] marks_ (marks@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:54:50] wenchau_MacDill (wenchau@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:55:05] Brad: to get the nrlp3 images, use ""; once in, "cd /space/data/nrl_images/YYYYMMDD" [GMT 08/28/05 16:55:56] Brad is N43RF off the deck yet? [GMT 08/28/05 16:55:56] Will do Stacy--many thanks [GMT 08/28/05 16:56:00] Brad (contd): then use "scp [image] [username]@[hostname]:[pathname] to download images [GMT 08/28/05 16:56:18] N42_MARS (N42_MARS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:56:30] Yes Frank, @ 1621 [GMT 08/28/05 16:56:44] Can you pass message to Rob Rogers for me? [GMT 08/28/05 16:56:56] yes -go [GMT 08/28/05 16:57:06] Brad, Can you ask Terry whether ELDORA can transmit on the ground? Is there any restriction? [GMT 08/28/05 16:57:28] Tell him to ask Ed Walsh if he is interested in going on landfall mission tomorrow morning with TO at 3 AM? [GMT 08/28/05 16:57:53] houze_ops (houze@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:57:59] houze__ (houze@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 16:58:29] brad: fyi i've been away from chat and havent seen messages for the last few minuts [GMT 08/28/05 16:58:36] Ed says yes [GMT 08/28/05 16:59:03] Wen-Chau - will have answer for you momentarily [GMT 08/28/05 16:59:23] brad: do you have internet access via your browser? [GMT 08/28/05 17:00:04] Working on it- it's slow. [GMT 08/28/05 17:00:15] Terry--LF stoppsed 16:58:18 [GMT 08/28/05 17:01:16] N42_MARS (N42_MARS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 08/28/05 17:01:41] Stacy - node rainex3 is not resolving on our nameserver--IP is ? [GMT 08/28/05 17:02:07] Preferred mode for me to access data will be scp, I think. I need to get files to *my* machine to view. [GMT 08/28/05 17:02:27] Brad: are you using the full machine name (rainex3.rsmas.miami.edu)?? [GMT 08/28/05 17:02:48] Yes... let me try again, we're having some problems up here-stand by [GMT 08/28/05 17:03:36] ssh: : No address associated with nodename [GMT 08/28/05 17:03:37] ssh: : No address associated with nodenamessh: rainex3.rsmas.miami.edu: No address associated with nodename [GMT 08/28/05 17:03:40] sorry for repeats [GMT 08/28/05 17:03:54] Tell Ed Peter Dodge will be LPS and to contact him on his cellphone when he lands (Rob should have the number) [GMT 08/28/05 17:03:59] aan explicit IP might work [GMT 08/28/05 17:04:20] Brad: ip number for rainex3 is ; if that doesn't work, try ssh'ing to (same password as Deanna uses for post-mission data transfer) [GMT 08/28/05 17:04:41] Brad--can you confirm that Terry got my message about LF not being transmitted? [GMT 08/28/05 17:04:58] OK Frank -if we can wait on other stuff like this til after mission that would be helpful. 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[GMT 08/28/05 17:13:21] wenchau_MacDill (wenchau@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 17:13:36] rob is here -- my username is N43-Sta2 [GMT 08/28/05 17:14:08] wenchau__ (wenchau@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 17:14:53] N43 preparing to cross outermost rainband [GMT 08/28/05 17:15:31] wenchau (wenchau@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 17:15:41] Brad & Rob: Wen & I have discussed the option of both planes working the outside of the rainband. We think it would work best as follows: When 43 gets to E point of W-E leg of 2nd fig 4 line up outside rainband and fly downwind. NRL will follow same track in trail separated ~70 nm behind 43. When 43 has flown 140 nm, both a/c reverse track. Both a/c keep flying reverse tracks outside band as time allows. Understood? [GMT 08/28/05 17:15:46] Stacy & Bob - Succeeded in scp'ing a Zebra image, so that should work. [GMT 08/28/05 17:16:20] MichaelBell-macdill (mbell@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 08/28/05 17:16:34] wenchau (wenchau@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 08/28/05 17:16:48] wenchau_ (wenchau@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 17:17:13] wenchau (wenchau@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 17:17:29] Terry--LF not coming in again. [GMT 08/28/05 17:17:32] Rob & Brad: The first coordination with NRL can be either with both a/c outside as just described or with one a/c inside a band and the other outside. [GMT 08/28/05 17:17:42] wenchau (wenchau@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 08/28/05 17:17:47] N43-Sta2 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 17:18:18] temporarily away from chat--back in a couple of mins [GMT 08/28/05 17:18:22] Bob - Rob and I both think that sounds reasonable. Unsure how much time we would have - my guess is that at most ONE recip pass would be possible (upwind legs will be slow). Will propose to FD and see what he says. [GMT 08/28/05 17:20:27] Test [GMT 08/28/05 17:21:04] Wen-Chau - What is your transmitted ELDORA power on tarmac? [GMT 08/28/05 17:22:01] Brad, need to get on flight, will contact you after we set up chat on NRL. [GMT 08/28/05 17:22:26] jimm (jimm@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 17:23:42] NO LF data for nearly 10 minutes [GMT 08/28/05 17:24:59] Thanks Jasmine- Radar systems seem normal here and chat is up, so not sure--Terry will check [GMT 08/28/05 17:25:23] wenchau__ (wenchau@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 17:25:44] ok, thank you for acknowledging [GMT 08/28/05 17:25:45] Jasmine - we show LF packets going out. Do you have 1 Hz data? [GMT 08/28/05 17:25:57] 1 Hz is coming in [GMT 08/28/05 17:26:18] but no LF coming in. [GMT 08/28/05 17:26:48] Bob - Appears rainband of interest passes through 26deg 53 min 87 deg 44 min , oriented basically NW-SE at that location. [GMT 08/28/05 17:27:48] Brad: Thanks for the point [GMT 08/28/05 17:27:59] We'll pass that point enroute to center, which is 75 nm ((19 min) ahead [GMT 08/28/05 17:29:08] Jasmine -last batches of packets transmitted at 1726 and again at 1728 [GMT 08/28/05 17:29:29] Hmm, last I received was 17:15:05 [GMT 08/28/05 17:29:48] Radar just dropped off a minute ago, but these symptoms are disturbing. [GMT 08/28/05 17:30:03] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 17:33:38] test [GMT 08/28/05 17:33:44] n43_RAMS__ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 17:33:49] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 17:35:38] N43-Sta2 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 17:35:53] Both LF and 1 Hz are back up [GMT 08/28/05 17:35:55] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 17:36:12] Brad + Terry: Both LF and 1 Hz are back up [GMT 08/28/05 17:36:12] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 17:36:17] OK, clear of rainband. Peak FL winds this pass 55 m/s (110 kt); very wet but minimal turbulence [GMT 08/28/05 17:36:34] test [GMT 08/28/05 17:36:50] lost G*, we're abck now [GMT 08/28/05 17:36:52] rob is here -- my username is N43-Sta2 [GMT 08/28/05 17:36:58] Brad & Rob: After the first coordination with NRL in the NE sector, can you rotate the next set of fig 4s counterclockwise by 45 degrees, so that instead of N-to-S you go NW-to-SE? This would allow a second coordination with NR in the SE sector. [GMT 08/28/05 17:36:59] is lf getting through? [GMT 08/28/05 17:37:11] yes, LF is getting here!! [GMT 08/28/05 17:37:17] LF shows only one more (minor) band between present location (26deg 48min 87deg 59min) and eyewall. Eyewall appearance remains closed and perfectly circular [GMT 08/28/05 17:37:30] Nick change: N43-Sta2 -> Rob [GMT 08/28/05 17:37:31] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 17:37:32] Great, Jasmine!! [GMT 08/28/05 17:37:52] i will ask Barry [GMT 08/28/05 17:38:00] wenchau_MacDill (wenchau@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 17:39:08] Bob - Barry sounds lukewarm, but the idea is planted. Let us get through this first pass and we'll know better what we're dealing with. [GMT 08/28/05 17:39:18] Barry (FD) says he is open to the idea...it will depend on the conditions as we're out here and what CARCAH says [GMT 08/28/05 17:39:48] Nick change: Rob -> N43-Rob [GMT 08/28/05 17:40:49] Minor rainband we just passed seemed coincided with ongoing ramp-up in FL winds (currently 114 kt) but otherwise inconsequential [GMT 08/28/05 17:41:08] wenchau_MacDill (wenchau@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 17:41:29] Ops -LF data is still coming in OK? [GMT 08/28/05 17:41:35] Yes [GMT 08/28/05 17:41:40] Approaching outer edge eyewall--great. [GMT 08/28/05 17:41:51] Brad, the bands are getting more sym all around the storm (from Satellite). They may become more variable near the inner core. [GMT 08/28/05 17:41:54] about to do 3-drop sequence [GMT 08/28/05 17:42:09] Rob, thx. [GMT 08/28/05 17:42:35] Thx Shuyi. FL wind now 140 kt [GMT 08/28/05 17:42:36] Brad--amazing lf image! [GMT 08/28/05 17:43:50] YES [GMT 08/28/05 17:44:05] In the thick of it--mdt turb [GMT 08/28/05 17:44:49] We're in. SUNSHINE [GMT 08/28/05 17:45:08] now *that's* an eye!!!! [GMT 08/28/05 17:45:13] jimm (jimm@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [GMT 08/28/05 17:45:22] beautiful stadium effect [GMT 08/28/05 17:45:37] significant slope to eyewall [GMT 08/28/05 17:45:55] clear banding features swirling on the surface [GMT 08/28/05 17:46:15] can see down to surface [GMT 08/28/05 17:46:19] completely clear aloft [GMT 08/28/05 17:46:53] Rob & Brad, get a good pic for me! Wish to be there! [GMT 08/28/05 17:47:10] Actually there's a fair bit of low cloud, but broken in spots. Yes Shuyi, Rob is taking pix [GMT 08/28/05 17:48:04] Low cloud is banded, vortical [GMT 08/28/05 17:48:23] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 17:49:25] yes there is stratocu with breaks where we can see the chaotic see [GMT 08/28/05 17:49:56] how does this look on satellite? [GMT 08/28/05 17:50:16] R & B, we're seeing them on floator img [GMT 08/28/05 17:50:16] can see some evidence of clouds roping in from eyewall [GMT 08/28/05 17:50:57] On high res sat it looks basically like you have described it. Can even see the low broken clouds [GMT 08/28/05 17:51:09] yes [GMT 08/28/05 17:51:16] any evidence of mesovortices? [GMT 08/28/05 17:51:18] R&B, there are more banded struc than Isabel. [GMT 08/28/05 17:51:34] ok [GMT 08/28/05 17:51:41] R, yes, on the sw side. [GMT 08/28/05 17:51:51] No obvious evidence of mesovortices. Probably have to loop it to see them [GMT 08/28/05 17:51:57] very warm in a/c [GMT 08/28/05 17:52:01] Preparing to mark center [GMT 08/28/05 17:52:30] btw we did 3-drop sequence on inbound leg [GMT 08/28/05 17:52:45] final drop (nhc drop) was a BT/GPS combo drop [GMT 08/28/05 17:53:12] after we mark center we will head outbound toward SW, repeat 3-drop sequence [GMT 08/28/05 17:53:23] and the 1st GPS drop will be a BT/GPS combo [GMT 08/28/05 17:54:49] still searching for wind center.... [GMT 08/28/05 17:55:00] science1-nrlp3 (Administra@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 17:55:10] Visually, there seems to be a major corkscrewing tower on W side of eyewall [GMT 08/28/05 17:56:09] zoomed up I see a wavenumber 4 pattern in eyewall [GMT 08/28/05 17:56:37] The corkscrewing pattern on west side also evident in zoomed sat picture [GMT 08/28/05 17:56:48] Marked center at 1755:20 at 26deg20min 88deg 39min. Sonde away, good winds. Beginning exit track. [GMT 08/28/05 17:57:08] Gamache reports 120 kts @ 10 m MSL on eyewall drop, w/ pressure of 924 mb at that spot [GMT 08/28/05 17:57:24] Amazing Bob--rapid scan has really come a long way! [GMT 08/28/05 17:57:58] Brad: I saved you some window dumps of the eye [GMT 08/28/05 17:58:18] Thanks Bob. Penetrating SW eyewall now, [GMT 08/28/05 17:58:44] Big bumps. Just droped sonde & BT [GMT 08/28/05 17:59:30] doing 3-drop sequence [GMT 08/28/05 17:59:39] 3rd drop is slightly delayed [GMT 08/28/05 18:00:39] 3rd one away [GMT 08/28/05 18:01:02] brad & rob: do you have an eta at the east point where the coordination will start? [GMT 08/28/05 18:01:31] it was about 1630-1700 UTC before takeoff [GMT 08/28/05 18:01:48] checking again now... [GMT 08/28/05 18:02:30] science2-nrlp3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 18:03:20] eye drop 902 mb [GMT 08/28/05 18:03:26] 902.3 mb min pressure for center drop [GMT 08/28/05 18:03:34] Wow, thx Rob. [GMT 08/28/05 18:03:44] Rob How was the pass through? Was Brad seeing what Sim talked about in teh conference call? [GMT 08/28/05 18:04:14] he may have been [GMT 08/28/05 18:04:21] I didn't notice any marked convective-scsale structure Frank, but let's await John G.'s analysis [GMT 08/28/05 18:04:34] there was spiraling clouds like he mentioned [GMT 08/28/05 18:04:48] Yes--corkscrewing tower on W side was kinda notable [GMT 08/28/05 18:04:53] i asked barry before flight if we could target features like that and he said no [GMT 08/28/05 18:05:02] But that was visual--not anything I could pick-out on radar [GMT 08/28/05 18:05:11] THANK YOU BARRY [GMT 08/28/05 18:05:34] john was going to try to do an analysis after each pass and send it on each successive downwind leg [GMT 08/28/05 18:06:00] John is a very busy guy with all the sondes he's got to send... ideally we need more staff up here [GMT 08/28/05 18:06:47] R&B, 902 mb is the 5th ever recorded (according to Derek). [GMT 08/28/05 18:06:53] We pulled a neg g on that last penetration [GMT 08/28/05 18:07:14] well we need another computer rather than just 1 workstation [GMT 08/28/05 18:07:18] ETA at easternmost point is 2100 UTC [GMT 08/28/05 18:07:59] Understood Rob--wouldn't have made that remark except that management is listening-in ;-) [GMT 08/28/05 18:08:20] gotcha always good to make a pitch... ;-) [GMT 08/28/05 18:11:32] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 08/28/05 18:11:41] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 08/28/05 18:11:41] RAINEXGUEST (rainex@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 18:12:02] RAINEXGUEST (rainex@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 08/28/05 18:12:46] N43-Rob (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 18:13:53] Nick change: science2-nrlp3 -> Wen-NRLP3 [GMT 08/28/05 18:15:20] Ops, one of the Chat expired on the primary laptop. Trying to reinstall it now. Takeoff may be delayed. [GMT 08/28/05 18:15:42] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 18:15:50] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 18:16:29] Nick change: EldoraOp-P3 -> ericloew-tampa [GMT 08/28/05 18:16:50] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 18:17:23] Terry-- 1 Hz came back up, but not LF [GMT 08/28/05 18:18:00] Terry's working on it--one of our G-*'s is down [GMT 08/28/05 18:18:04] Thx Jasmine! [GMT 08/28/05 18:18:09] ok, thanks Brad [GMT 08/28/05 18:22:44] At end of 1st leg. Turning to track 090. Stacy-- did another succesful image transfer. Wishlist (for RAINEX-2??): A separate directory with images centered on N43 [GMT 08/28/05 18:24:36] This downwind/e-bound run is going to graze/tangent to a fairly intense outer rainband [GMT 08/28/05 18:25:17] brad: would it be good to scan one side with the tail? [GMT 08/28/05 18:29:21] Bob... Rob and I discussed this before, and we're in agreement that the cost/benefit ratio isn't too favorable. We've got good echo (and hence circulation) on both sides of track since this track crossed the band [GMT 08/28/05 18:30:07] So if one scans one side only, the question is when to switch. In supercells I have no problem, but here I think 'KISS' applies.... [GMT 08/28/05 18:31:02] Sorry - know my previous comment about "tangent track" was misleading. We have indeed crossed this band, tho obliquely [GMT 08/28/05 18:32:54] brad: Ok on the 2 sides. It was just a suggestion. [GMT 08/28/05 18:33:00] What is KISS????? [GMT 08/28/05 18:33:12] Keep It Simple, Stupid [GMT 08/28/05 18:33:28] (I was using it in a first-person sense, of course) [GMT 08/28/05 18:33:34] sorry I asked! [GMT 08/28/05 18:33:41] Me too! [GMT 08/28/05 18:33:57] If I ever say "FUBAR", please don't ask. [GMT 08/28/05 18:34:59] John Gamache just showed me his dual-Doppler analysis from our first leg. It shows >80 m/s flow at 500 m to the NE of the eye [GMT 08/28/05 18:36:51] Ops, cell phone effort failed, will go on mission using other laptop for chat. NRL is on the run way. [GMT 08/28/05 18:39:56] Bob - FD is reluctant to do any "upwind" work w/ 43 as required for reciproocal passes. There are other things we *might* be able to do to get creative, since we have option to cross eye region. [GMT 08/28/05 18:40:11] Wish I had a whiteboard feature here.... [GMT 08/28/05 18:42:40] brad: ok, too bad, we will think about it here, too [GMT 08/28/05 18:44:05] science1-nrlp3 (Administra@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 08/28/05 18:46:20] nrl takkeoff at 1845 [GMT 08/28/05 18:52:30] Ops - we see a gap in the very convective outer band near 25 deg N [GMT 08/28/05 18:53:34] Might be a good place for NRL to break through [GMT 08/28/05 18:53:57] brad, any word on G* for LF data? [GMT 08/28/05 18:54:49] eric loew- please go to eldora channel [GMT 08/28/05 18:54:54] He's still working on it Jasmine... sorry for the long outage [GMT 08/28/05 18:55:06] Very nice first leg on the SFMR showed 160 kt flight level NE with 120 kt surface. More similar on SW side. Suggestion of outer wind max in NE side from both SFMR and FL winds, with peak around 1723 UTC. [GMT 08/28/05 18:55:12] ok, thanks for the update! [GMT 08/28/05 18:55:13] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 18:55:37] N43 is now tracking 315, did our turn at 1853 [GMT 08/28/05 18:56:26] sent Shuyi copy of wind plot of first leg via email [GMT 08/28/05 18:57:29] HWIND analysis I did at 1630 hat 131 kt surface wind from dropsonde on NNE side. Look at HWIND output page. [GMT 08/28/05 18:58:24] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 18:58:28] Frank: New analysis should be arriving shortly--being ftp'd now [GMT 08/28/05 18:58:55] Have emphasized urgency of getting G* up, but not sure what else can be done up here [GMT 08/28/05 18:59:00] frank: can you call me at [GMT 08/28/05 19:02:34] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 19:02:39] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 19:04:10] Ops, what is the current center of Katrina? [GMT 08/28/05 19:04:43] N43-Sta2 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:04:53] N43-Sta2_ (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:05:01] N43-Sta2_ (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left &RAINEX (Leaving). [GMT 08/28/05 19:05:18] Nick change: N43-Sta2 -> Rob-N43 [GMT 08/28/05 19:05:23] Brad, 26.3 /88.4 [GMT 08/28/05 19:05:55] rob is back on [GMT 08/28/05 19:06:07] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:06:07] sorry, I mean WenChau [GMT 08/28/05 19:06:17] Ok Terry, it's all coming in now [GMT 08/28/05 19:06:19] thanks [GMT 08/28/05 19:06:22] y'all gettin radar from 43 now? [GMT 08/28/05 19:06:44] cool [GMT 08/28/05 19:06:44] Nick change: n43_RAMS -> terry-n43 [GMT 08/28/05 19:07:19] thanks for your efforts, Terry!! Got data at just the right time [GMT 08/28/05 19:08:45] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:09:12] that's how I live my life... just in time! :) [GMT 08/28/05 19:09:33] Spiral bands here on SE side seem to be progressivley "meatier" as we progress toward eye [GMT 08/28/05 19:09:47] Ops -Please let us know if/when you get a clear LF view [GMT 08/28/05 19:09:56] Brad, what is your ETA to the east most point ? [GMT 08/28/05 19:09:56] fWe want to discuss plan for NRL [GMT 08/28/05 19:10:01] and they look like they spiral in more to the center [GMT 08/28/05 19:10:22] 2100 [GMT 08/28/05 19:10:48] Brad--stand by [GMT 08/28/05 19:10:57] the upwind side of that band (i.e. on the SE side) is about 90 nm from center [GMT 08/28/05 19:11:25] but on the E and NE side it's probably about 50-60 nm from center as it spirals in [GMT 08/28/05 19:12:31] meanwhile the outer band, with more convective elements embedded, seems more concentric with a radius of about 100-110 nm [GMT 08/28/05 19:13:38] Ops, NRL is about 20 min away from IP (26.5N/85.5W) [GMT 08/28/05 19:13:47] Brad, Standby, we are discussing the options now [GMT 08/28/05 19:14:01] Will do. [GMT 08/28/05 19:14:24] Wen-NRLP3, OK, we are working on options for you--are you in precip/convect at this time?? [GMT 08/28/05 19:15:28] Wen-NRLP3, I think we can move you further west cause the storm is still [GMT 08/28/05 19:15:40] no, we are not [GMT 08/28/05 19:15:46] shifting to the NW -- no turn to the north yet [GMT 08/28/05 19:16:02] there is a feature to our right side [GMT 08/28/05 19:16:58] Rob-N43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 19:17:02] Wen-NRLP3, Indeed we see on sat-cell in an outer band wrapping to the nnw [GMT 08/28/05 19:17:19] Jim, it is still clear in front of NRL, do you want us to keep going west? [GMT 08/28/05 19:17:34] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 19:17:39] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 19:19:33] Wen-NRLP3, Let move the point to same lat and 86long [GMT 08/28/05 19:20:09] Ops, what is the satellite image, visible or IR? [GMT 08/28/05 19:20:29] Wen-NRLP3, High res visiable [GMT 08/28/05 19:20:30] Jim, got it, 26.5N/86W [GMT 08/28/05 19:21:00] Jim, Thanks. [GMT 08/28/05 19:21:02] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:21:04] Wen-NRLP3, Now oonce you reach that point we will consider a sortie north (downwind) [GMT 08/28/05 19:21:44] or SOuth (upwind) to see what is out that far [GMT 08/28/05 19:22:12] CharlieMartin-richmond (martinc@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:22:48] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:23:27] Wen-NRLP3, there will be a band on your nose once you reach 86W [GMT 08/28/05 19:23:48] It may be about 86.2 and oriented N/S [GMT 08/28/05 19:23:49] Marked center at 1923:00 at 26deg33min 88deg52min. [GMT 08/28/05 19:25:04] Wen-NRLP3, Wen I mean band will be at 87.2 [GMT 08/28/05 19:25:27] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 08/28/05 19:25:57] What we would kile you to do is to proceed west (if flight approves) to a point at your lat and 87.4 [GMT 08/28/05 19:26:07] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:26:32] That wiill put you to the east of a stronger band-- [GMT 08/28/05 19:26:57] standby [GMT 08/28/05 19:27:27] N43-Sta2 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:27:40] Nick change: N43-Sta2 -> Rob-N43 [GMT 08/28/05 19:27:47] N43-Sta2_ (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:29:19] Rob-N43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left &RAINEX (Leaving). [GMT 08/28/05 19:29:35] Nick change: N43-Sta2_ -> Rob-N43 [GMT 08/28/05 19:29:54] Wen-NRLP3, The band at 87.2 is broken, not strong according to LF data [GMT 08/28/05 19:30:25] when would you like 1st sonde drop [GMT 08/28/05 19:30:41] eye drop 901.5 [GMT 08/28/05 19:30:51] 14 kt at 8 m height [GMT 08/28/05 19:31:50] Wen, when you reach 26.5/87.4, we would like you to turn south [GMT 08/28/05 19:32:51] ok, please provide next way point [GMT 08/28/05 19:32:53] to an end point 26.0/87.3, Drop a sonde and reverse track heading downwind back to the north [GMT 08/28/05 19:32:58] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:33:11] n43_RAMS (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 19:33:21] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:33:29] BradSmull-n43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 19:34:04] Rob-N43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 19:34:37] confirm 26.0/87.3 as 1st drop [GMT 08/28/05 19:34:52] Repeat: No changes to N43's ETA at E point: 2100 [GMT 08/28/05 19:36:22] test [GMT 08/28/05 19:38:47] Wen-NRLP3, Can we adjust the track??--Rather than reverse track [GMT 08/28/05 19:38:55] N43-Sta2 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:38:56] turbulence [GMT 08/28/05 19:39:14] Nick change: N43-Sta2 -> Rob-N43 [GMT 08/28/05 19:39:21] N43-Sta2_ (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:39:25] marks_ (marks@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 19:39:34] can you head on south to 25.5/87.5 and then reverse track [GMT 08/28/05 19:39:39] eldora down [GMT 08/28/05 19:40:12] one more bump like that pilots want out of here [GMT 08/28/05 19:40:32] Understand [GMT 08/28/05 19:41:36] eldora up [GMT 08/28/05 19:41:36] what do you mean adjust track? [GMT 08/28/05 19:41:41] very clear on LF here in NW side [GMT 08/28/05 19:43:07] Rob-N43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left &RAINEX (Leaving). [GMT 08/28/05 19:43:24] Nick change: N43-Sta2_ -> Rob-N43 [GMT 08/28/05 19:43:34] Wen-NRLP3, we would like you to extend the south point to 25.5/87.5 (.5 degree to the south--north point at 26.5/887.4 remains unchanged [GMT 08/28/05 19:43:40] bump was 10 m/s updraft [GMT 08/28/05 19:43:54] that's a pretty good bump [GMT 08/28/05 19:44:17] marks-hrd (marks@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 19:44:35] Wen: There's no shame in loitering outside rough area until N43 gets closer to provide better LF coverage. [GMT 08/28/05 19:45:25] approaching band on NW side here about 50 nm from center, though there is a gap right where we're headed [GMT 08/28/05 19:49:54] looks like another great SFMR pass on this leg. [GMT 08/28/05 19:50:21] Ops, 99kt headwind, NRL just turned S. [GMT 08/28/05 19:51:45] Wen-NRLP3, Grear Wen, Can you see band to starboard on ELDORA [GMT 08/28/05 19:52:23] marks-hrd, if you ask pete... every sfmr pass is a great pass! [GMT 08/28/05 19:52:38] Nick change: n43_RAMS_ -> terry-n43 [GMT 08/28/05 19:52:40] sfmr has been working really well lately [GMT 08/28/05 19:52:44] of course i just jinxed it [GMT 08/28/05 19:52:49] VHF coms established with 587 [GMT 08/28/05 19:55:43] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 08/28/05 19:56:35] Nearing NW-most point, preparing for AXBT drop and turn [GMT 08/28/05 19:57:15] Rob, just heard from Peter Dodge that McFadden said Walsh can not fly tomorrow as it violates an AOC safety reg on operators of intrumentation on the aircraft. Tell him sorry. Peter D and Mike B are in transit to Tampa now. They will link up with Landsea at hotel. [GMT 08/28/05 19:57:18] nasty line of cells about 15 nm ahead, turning before then [GMT 08/28/05 19:57:29] Wen-NRLP3, how are we doing?? [GMT 08/28/05 19:57:34] ok frank -- thanks and I'll tell Ed [GMT 08/28/05 19:59:21] doing ok - about 10 km from band [GMT 08/28/05 19:59:48] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 08/28/05 19:59:55] shuyi and bob: new HWIND analysis on the cat5.nhc.noaa.gov website for 1930 UTC. [GMT 08/28/05 20:00:23] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:00:38] dbz > 50 [GMT 08/28/05 20:00:58] MikeDaniels-home (daniels@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:01:05] Thx, Frank. [GMT 08/28/05 20:01:59] wen: do the echoes look convective, i.e. not stratiform? [GMT 08/28/05 20:02:23] CARCAH (Warren/Jamees Franklin/Ed Rappaport) are going to require that we stick to NHC patttern today in NE quadrant. They said they were "not aware" of our plan. Marty clarified that we were only asking for arc vs. straightline. [GMT 08/28/05 20:02:38] Perhaps McFadden could call these guys to re-clarify? [GMT 08/28/05 20:03:01] jimm (jimm@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:03:34] occasionally, most look stratiform but some intense cores in others [GMT 08/28/05 20:03:59] jim mcfadden, are you on here? [GMT 08/28/05 20:04:00] Cloud top ~14 km, clear bright band [GMT 08/28/05 20:04:10] yes [GMT 08/28/05 20:04:28] Ops, NRL is ~10 km from the line, we don't want to get closer. [GMT 08/28/05 20:04:35] marty just spoke with carcah and they indicated that carcah said we can not do even the arc pattern on the NE side [GMT 08/28/05 20:04:41] is that correct? [GMT 08/28/05 20:05:35] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:06:08] science 3 chat is up, thanks charlie martin [GMT 08/28/05 20:06:10] Nick change: science3-nrlp3 -> Deanna-nrlp3 [GMT 08/28/05 20:06:29] Wen-NRLP3, Understand, confirm you are dropping sondes every 5 minutes starting at the turn north [GMT 08/28/05 20:06:56] Rob-N43, Just spoke with Jim Mcf and he will call CARCAH [GMT 08/28/05 20:07:14] He said our pattern request was approved this morning [GMT 08/28/05 20:07:27] I guess we wait-- [GMT 08/28/05 20:08:23] ok thanks jim [GMT 08/28/05 20:08:26] Wen-NRLP3, your distance is fine-- we don't want any more surprises for the crew [GMT 08/28/05 20:08:27] we'll wait to hear [GMT 08/28/05 20:10:07] ed says he doesn't remember, but says if that's the word pavone passed, then we will go with it. [GMT 08/28/05 20:10:18] pattern approved personally by Ed. [GMT 08/28/05 20:10:36] so does that mean we can do the arc pattern? [GMT 08/28/05 20:11:23] yes, but the 0000Z fix must be on time - vortex received by 0000Z [GMT 08/28/05 20:11:30] ok thanks jim [GMT 08/28/05 20:11:36] i'll pass the word on to Marty [GMT 08/28/05 20:11:43] timing is everything. [GMT 08/28/05 20:11:59] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:12:10] Wen-NRLP3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:12:27] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:12:34] Deanna-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:12:36] jimm: thanks [GMT 08/28/05 20:12:46] also, rob, tell Ed Walsh that he will not be allowed to fly the landfall mission because of crew rest limitations. [GMT 08/28/05 20:12:57] ok, so we're going to do the arc pattern on the NE side [GMT 08/28/05 20:13:30] but we will not extend past due north, i.e., we will do the N-S leg as opposed to coming around to the NW side as we had discussed [GMT 08/28/05 20:13:46] ok jim I told Ed that he can't fly tonight [GMT 08/28/05 20:13:54] Jcowan-Jeffco (jcowan@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:14:07] Nick change: Jcowan-Jeffco -> jcowan-tampa [GMT 08/28/05 20:15:27] Wen-NRLP3, Confirm the drop when it happens there on the south end [GMT 08/28/05 20:19:50] Deanna-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:19:58] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:20:26] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:20:42] Wen- We're finally bringing some LF coverage your way. Fine-tuned ETA on 43's east-most point is 2105 [GMT 08/28/05 20:21:06] we are back [GMT 08/28/05 20:21:12] Wen-NRLP3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:21:16] Just had to adjust our track to 085 to allow for N-ward drift of eye [GMT 08/28/05 20:21:25] Wen-NRLP3, Confirm the drop when it happens there on the south end [GMT 08/28/05 20:21:42] Also note that N43 to arrive at north point at 2105 [GMT 08/28/05 20:22:02] i hear NO radar starting to pick up N eyewall [GMT 08/28/05 20:22:18] Ro [GMT 08/28/05 20:22:23] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:22:31] we're turning left back around to where we came from [GMT 08/28/05 20:23:02] Rob-N43, THat is true- very impressive and strong convective bands ashore LA [GMT 08/28/05 20:23:18] still looking like NO is the bulls' eye? [GMT 08/28/05 20:23:45] Rob, yes. [GMT 08/28/05 20:23:50] So far calling for the worst at NO and Mobile Bay [GMT 08/28/05 20:24:27] Deanna-nrlp3, confirm you are dropping sondes?? [GMT 08/28/05 20:25:31] rob - marty/barry get the word on the 0000Z fix? [GMT 08/28/05 20:25:54] that they want it exactly at 00Z? (or close to 00Z) [GMT 08/28/05 20:26:15] they need it before 0000Z [GMT 08/28/05 20:26:15] drop 1 is away [GMT 08/28/05 20:26:36] i'd say as close as they can get, but report in by 0000 [GMT 08/28/05 20:26:43] Wen (& Ops, but I think you guys know) - Beware of attention of LF by extreme N/S limits of eyewall [GMT 08/28/05 20:26:51] drop away at 2026 [GMT 08/28/05 20:27:24] ok i just told marty [GMT 08/28/05 20:28:24] jimm (jimm@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 08/28/05 20:29:43] Deanna-nrlp3, N43 just approaching eye of storm, will be at the point at about 2105 [GMT 08/28/05 20:30:05] Wen-NRLP3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 08/28/05 20:30:26] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:30:31] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:30:32] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:30:33] Deanna-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:31:21] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:33:52] 43 approaching eyewall edge [GMT 08/28/05 20:34:21] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:35:39] We're in. [GMT 08/28/05 20:35:48] tail radar shows beautiful slope in reflectivity [GMT 08/28/05 20:35:52] looks like a bowl [GMT 08/28/05 20:37:17] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:37:58] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:38:33] Wen-NRLP3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:38:42] Center marked at 2038:10 at 26deg 45min 88deg 55 min. Sonde out Good winds. [GMT 08/28/05 20:38:59] eye is 40-45 km diameter at flight level (from TA radar) [GMT 08/28/05 20:39:12] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:39:24] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:39:46] Ops - We will bring up LF tilt after we penetrate E side of eyewall [GMT 08/28/05 20:40:32] slopes out about 10 km for about 10 km of height [GMT 08/28/05 20:41:11] Preparing to punch E eyewall. [GMT 08/28/05 20:41:33] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 08/28/05 20:42:04] nrl: beautiful flying next to this band! [GMT 08/28/05 20:42:45] Ops - our E point is 26deg 46 min 86 deg 59 min [GMT 08/28/05 20:43:09] Wen-NRLP3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:44:15] Brad, NRL is off chat--have pilots communicate directly on coordination [GMT 08/28/05 20:46:31] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 08/28/05 20:47:32] Punching through innermost (principal?) band now [GMT 08/28/05 20:47:52] MikeDaniels-home (daniels@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 08/28/05 20:47:52] Wen-NRLP3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:47:57] Brad, are you there?? are you in touch with NRL? [GMT 08/28/05 20:48:03] Current longitude 88 deg 14 min [GMT 08/28/05 20:48:10] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:48:13] Pilots are in touch. [GMT 08/28/05 20:48:39] Any specific info to pass? [GMT 08/28/05 20:48:57] Brad--jim's on the phone with them now [GMT 08/28/05 20:50:37] Ops : our plan is to track as closely to (and just outside/E of) band that we will intersect near 87deg 15 min [GMT 08/28/05 20:50:46] Feedback? [GMT 08/28/05 20:51:31] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:51:32] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:51:50] Wen-NRLP3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:51:50] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:53:48] Rob-N43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [GMT 08/28/05 20:54:14] CharlieMartin-richmond (martinc@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 08/28/05 20:54:34] Brad, confirm NRL and you will be outside the band of interest (i.e. east of it??) [GMT 08/28/05 20:55:23] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:55:30] terry-n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:55:34] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 20:55:39] brad: we are just trying to understand the pattern, not trying to change anything [GMT 08/28/05 20:56:28] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:56:58] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:57:08] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:57:12] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:57:16] JOIN flood from @rdcc.guest.ucar.edu! Banning. [GMT 08/28/05 20:57:16] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:57:17] &rainex: mode change '+b *!*@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu' by RDCC-EOL!rdcc@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu [GMT 08/28/05 20:57:18] &rainex: mode change '-b *!*@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu' by RDCC-EOL!rdcc@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu [GMT 08/28/05 20:57:46] Ops -you copy? [GMT 08/28/05 20:57:46] Wen-NRLP3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:57:51] what are the waypoints for this arc? [GMT 08/28/05 20:58:08] Nick change: science3-nrlp3 -> Deanna-nrlp3 [GMT 08/28/05 20:58:28] Rob-N43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 20:58:32] Nick change: n43_RAMS_ -> terry_n43 [GMT 08/28/05 20:59:08] stand by Deanna, they're getting it together [GMT 08/28/05 20:59:36] Deanna -You will continue to orbit until we set the track. [GMT 08/28/05 21:00:52] n43_RAMS_ (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 21:00:52] Brad--who is flying to the east of the band and who is flying to the west? [GMT 08/28/05 21:01:19] by the way, sondes were stopped at 20:50 [GMT 08/28/05 21:01:35] BradSmull-NOAA43 (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 21:01:44] Brad--who is flying to the east of the band and who is flying to the west? [GMT 08/28/05 21:02:27] BOTH aircraft will be on east today [GMT 08/28/05 21:02:33] Rob-N43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 21:02:36] NRL will be in-trail, echoing our track [GMT 08/28/05 21:02:36] BradSmull-n43rf (smull@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 21:02:37] terry_n43 (N43_RAMS@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 21:02:41] We just hit a 12 m/s updraft [GMT 08/28/05 21:03:21] OK, we successfully penetrated band. NRL should *not* venture in there [GMT 08/28/05 21:03:47] RAINEXGUEST (rainex@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 21:04:04] Rob-N43 (N43RF_UDP@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 21:04:15] brad: It would be better to keep nrl on the inside [GMT 08/28/05 21:04:21] Wen-NRLP3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 21:04:29] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 21:04:31] Deanna-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 21:04:33] Nick change: RAINEXGUEST -> MikeStrong-tampa [GMT 08/28/05 21:04:35] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 21:04:36] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Ping timeout [GMT 08/28/05 21:04:51] bra [GMT 08/28/05 21:05:09] OK, it seems that NRL is now on WEST side of band. [GMT 08/28/05 21:05:14] brad: we need to keep nrl on the inside to avoid updrafts [GMT 08/28/05 21:05:20] They should not, repeat NOT go through that band [GMT 08/28/05 21:05:21] brad that's right [GMT 08/28/05 21:05:25] ericloew-tampa (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [GMT 08/28/05 21:05:40] we will keep nrl on the inside you on the outside [GMT 08/28/05 21:05:46] (Begs the question--how did they get there?) [GMT 08/28/05 21:06:32] That's the first we heard of this plan -just please keep us informed [GMT 08/28/05 21:07:47] n43 turning to the north [GMT 08/28/05 21:08:49] We're going to track 345 [GMT 08/28/05 21:10:11] Brad: waypoints for 43--27.3/87, 27.7/.87.5, 27.6/88, 27.7/89....adjust accordingly [GMT 08/28/05 21:11:07] drops-NRLP3 (Avaps1@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 21:11:20] science3-nrlp3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 21:11:23] ads-nrlp3 (ads@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 21:11:32] Ops We need way poiints for NRL [GMT 08/28/05 21:12:26] EldoraOp-P3 (eldora@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 21:12:40] drops-NRLP3, Confirm you are dropping sondes, every 5 minutes?? thanks [GMT 08/28/05 21:12:41] Ops -we need this info ASAP [GMT 08/28/05 21:12:55] Wen-NRLP3 (science@rdcc.guest.ucar.edu) joined &RAINEX. [GMT 08/28/05 21:12:58] NRL Way Points: 26.7/87.5 27.1/87.7 27.5/88.4 27.6/89.0 [GMT 08/28/05 21:13:12] Adjust as appropriate [GMT 08/28/05 21:13:47] we will start dropping at turn- 5 min intervals [GMT 08/28/05 21:14:15] Have passed those points to NRL [GMT 08/28/05 21:14:25]